sorry, but as someone aware of the situation, it wasn't rape. it was gross, and he should definitely be ashamed of himself and face social consequences. sex via coercion is fucking low. but the other person was fully capable of informed consent as well as escape if they chose to do so. it's not rape and conflating it with rape dilutes the entire issue of sexual assault and its victims.
rape implies an lack of or inability to consent. coercion implies there was consent. the fine difference between the two is usually decided on a case by case basis. one person's coercion may be a full removal of consent to another, especially depending on the victim's state of mind and whether or not they believe there is a way out.
i'd guess it would be the difference between abusing someone emotionally (like telling them they're worthless and only you care about them etc etc) and telling them you'll hurt them if they don't give sex.
one's awful and fucking douchebag behavior that people should be helped or educated to avoid or escape, but it's still not rape. the other is rape. this scenario sounds like the latter.
Sex via coercion IS a form of rape. Coating a pile of shit in gold and diamonds doesn't make it any less shit. Victims are victims, no matter how they became victims. If there is a way to escape a situation but the victim doesn't do so (whether via terror or intimidation or whatever), it's STILL RAPE. Calling it otherwise is victim-blaming.
with the rape culture in our society, we don't have the ability to, as a culture, categorize these things without lessening some crimes when they shouldn't be, and move into victim blaming territory.
oh my fucking god this is rape apologizing at its finest. can i have whatever you're huffing? it must be really good to not put two and two together and know that sex through coercion and intimidation is a form of rape. have it said like this: the person was restrained through bodily effort, terrified by the person before the action happened because they were threatened and was being forced to have sex despite saying no again and again.
what are you on. if you're someone who is ~aware~ of this situation, you're part of a big reason why people are unwilling to step forward and have the police or law know about crimes like these. you and others nitpick the hell out of the situation and try to demote it to something ~lesser~ holy shit.
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Re: cw: rape, molestation, incest
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 02:08 am (UTC)(link)they were a victim, but not of rape.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 02:14 am (UTC)(link)Re: cw: rape, molestation, incest
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 02:31 am (UTC)(link)da
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 02:36 am (UTC)(link)Re: cw: rape, molestation, incest
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 02:41 am (UTC)(link)one's awful and fucking douchebag behavior that people should be helped or educated to avoid or escape, but it's still not rape. the other is rape. this scenario sounds like the latter.
DA
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 02:43 am (UTC)(link)+1
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 05:30 am (UTC)(link)sa
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 03:05 am (UTC)(link)it's tangential to funk's behavior anyways
Re: cw: rape, molestation, incest
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)what are you on. if you're someone who is ~aware~ of this situation, you're part of a big reason why people are unwilling to step forward and have the police or law know about crimes like these. you and others nitpick the hell out of the situation and try to demote it to something ~lesser~ holy shit.
Plus fucking one
(Anonymous) 2013-04-16 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)Re: cw: rape, molestation, incest
(Anonymous) 2013-04-16 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)