Serious question: Assuming that a person in question is not in fact a sociopath without emotions, and has done something they feel to be morally repugnant, should they...not feel bad? Like I have no idea what it feels like to have done that, thank fucking god, but I feel bad enough about little things I've done in the past like shoplifting or hell just being a bully.
I don't think excoriating someone for feeling very human emotions makes a lot of sense when there's other shit to excoriate him for.
In the meantime, ask yourself why a community that happens to have an oddly large number of rape survivors should give a shit about a rapist's feelings.
Sorry dearie, but I'm a survivor myself and this sort of thing is exactly the fucking way I WISH my attacker would do or think. Do you have any fucking idea how much I'd have loved to just ONCE heard the words "I'm sorry"?
given the dawn player in question i wouldn't be surprised if she dragged him into it, and i don't recall him playing noncon anywhere recently like ken does, but it's still skeevy of him to say yes
funk isn't sorry he raped his ex. he's sorry he got found out. read that pastebin and you'll see for yourself how remorseful he really is when describing the incident. how he has that it was rape from the survivor's perspective and how he just doesn't happen to recall almost punching her yet remembers everything else afterward clearly. lets not forgetting making an ~anniversary~ out of the rape, like it's a thing to be fucking commemorated.
Yeah, well it wouldn't have done anything for me and quite frankly it disgusts me that people are falling all over this guy's dick to forgive him. He's only apologizing because he's been thoroughly outed. His word means jack fucking shit and I hope you choke on your condescension.
FUCKING THIS. He was happy to pretend it never happened and paint it as something else for the longest fucking time. The only reason he's sorry is because he's sorry he got found out.
did he apologize to the girl before this? because, let's be real, he doesn't owe any of us jack shit as far as apologies go. he owes her more apologies than he can give and i would hope he would have done that long before this
or maybe he did apologize four years ago when it happened? is he supposed to say sorry every day and every time he adds new people go 'hi i raped a girl four years ago'
"He's only apologizing because he's been thoroughly outed."
As someone who knew well beforehand, this is false. Don't let me get in the way of your self-righteousness, though. I'm sure you love speaking for all survivors.
Sure you are. You probably also have friends who were black when racism comes up.
nd this sort of thing is exactly the fucking way I WISH my attacker would do or think
Yes, we rape victims usually love for rapists to feel really sorry that they were outed and make themselves martyrs over it.
Do you have any fucking idea how much I'd have loved to just ONCE heard the words "I'm sorry"?
Personally, I'd wish for my rapist to say sorry to me before handing himself in, not say sorry to the public for sympathy, but never hand himself in. Because if you make no move to make things right somehow, your sorry is worthless.
the fact that he feels guilty is a good thing. the fact that the entire post was basically saying "i didn't mean to do it" and "from her perspective" and "she definitely experienced" says that he's still wishy-washy over the fact that he actually did it.
-I did this thing. I am genuinely very sorry about it and feel terrible and want to become a better person. -I still have not fully grasped what I did and am still rationalizing ways at which it is in some universe not my fault, or at least not entirely. -This is creating a really weird fucking mess of somewhat-apology where I half want to take responsibility and own up to it and simultaneously want people to tell me i'm a good person and hug me -?????
Like it's just so disconnected to read. I DID THIS REALLY SHITTY THING I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY I'M SORRY but seriously I'm not actually THAT bad
Like I kind of have weird sympathy for him now? Not in the ohhh poor babyyyy sense, in the jesus dude actually get this professionally sorted out sense
i don't even feel that kind of sympathy for him, but other than that, +1. like he knows enough about rape to realize that he did violate somebody, but he can't fully handle that fact mentally and emotionally. so, he's going to grasp at any excuse he can not to feel like total dogshit. until he comes to terms with his actions fully, any apology he makes will ring hollow.
i can see that. but there's becoming a better person and then there's using these things you have done to be a better person to try to excuse what you have done in the past. its good that he's trying to make the world a better place and all that but that doesnt mean he understands what rape victims go through and i'm still pretty disgusted at his word choices and general stance throughout the pastebin.
dude needs help. also he removed a good chunk of his friends list so if not for this pastebin, no one would have seen this confession.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 04:58 am (UTC)(link)I don't think excoriating someone for feeling very human emotions makes a lot of sense when there's other shit to excoriate him for.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 05:01 am (UTC)(link)In the meantime, ask yourself why a community that happens to have an oddly large number of rape survivors should give a shit about a rapist's feelings.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 05:04 am (UTC)(link)No?
Okay, well shut the fuck up then.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 05:08 am (UTC)(link)everyone's going to feel differently about it tho.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 05:46 am (UTC)(link)As someone who knew well beforehand, this is false. Don't let me get in the way of your self-righteousness, though. I'm sure you love speaking for all survivors.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 07:49 am (UTC)(link)Nice start, already condescension.
but I'm a survivor myself
Sure you are. You probably also have friends who were black when racism comes up.
nd this sort of thing is exactly the fucking way I WISH my attacker would do or think
Yes, we rape victims usually love for rapists to feel really sorry that they were outed and make themselves martyrs over it.
Do you have any fucking idea how much I'd have loved to just ONCE heard the words "I'm sorry"?
Personally, I'd wish for my rapist to say sorry to me before handing himself in, not say sorry to the public for sympathy, but never hand himself in. Because if you make no move to make things right somehow, your sorry is worthless.
Okay, well shut the fuck up then.
Ok, rape apologist.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 05:23 am (UTC)(link)-I did this thing. I am genuinely very sorry about it and feel terrible and want to become a better person.
-I still have not fully grasped what I did and am still rationalizing ways at which it is in some universe not my fault, or at least not entirely.
-This is creating a really weird fucking mess of somewhat-apology where I half want to take responsibility and own up to it and simultaneously want people to tell me i'm a good person and hug me
-?????
Like it's just so disconnected to read. I DID THIS REALLY SHITTY THING I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY I'M SORRY but seriously I'm not actually THAT bad
Like I kind of have weird sympathy for him now? Not in the ohhh poor babyyyy sense, in the jesus dude actually get this professionally sorted out sense
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 05:38 am (UTC)(link)dude needs help. also he removed a good chunk of his friends list so if not for this pastebin, no one would have seen this confession.
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