I think the last point of time where I had any sort of real interest in TVD, was when Elena was dating that med student for five minutes. Aside from that, it was mostly, I'm just trying to keep up with timeline/ I've got time to kill since the end of s4.

As for TO, i started falling off towards the end of s2, but basically, right after they came back from the winter hiatus.

I get it. Nobody's ever allowed to be happy, Jesus Christ.