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wankgate2017-01-06 07:51 pm
ryanongosling) wrote in wankgate2017-01-06 07:51 pm
wahhhh why won't this captain america player let me touch his dick waaaaaah i'm so alone
nobody ever says "it would be nice to see m/f versions" though
instead we get asspained rants about yaoihounds and yelling about all m/m players only playing shitty stereotypes and acting like tumblrinas trying to shame them into playing m/f
the hand has been tipped though and it's now obvious that what this is really about is specifically the 5 live action white boys every la player inexplicably wants to fuck and not the dwrp male character population as a whole
so saying there is actually tons of m/f being played out and by people who also play m/m is irrelevant to the whiners because it doesn't involve those specific la characters
instead we get asspained rants about yaoihounds and yelling about all m/m players only playing shitty stereotypes and acting like tumblrinas trying to shame them into playing m/f
the hand has been tipped though and it's now obvious that what this is really about is specifically the 5 live action white boys every la player inexplicably wants to fuck and not the dwrp male character population as a whole
so saying there is actually tons of m/f being played out and by people who also play m/m is irrelevant to the whiners because it doesn't involve those specific la characters
they have, and then you hear the screeds of 'no one's entitled to people playing outside their preferences'. i remember quite clearly discussions about people wishing for het or actual bi versions of chars on memes and the shut downs of calling anyone who asked a thirsty cockhop, peppered with insults of self-insertion.
yeah, there's some m/f being played, but as mentioned before, a lot of the problems stem from the actual popular characters being in abundance and all of them being m/m. and if you bring up a preference for variety, down come the cockhops or 'stop persecuting my choices'.
don't baw about bakerstreet slowing to a halt when the reason is because people are bored of the limited choices they have between popular gay guy one and popular gay guy two, followed by popular gay guy three and their sidekick twink.
yeah, there's some m/f being played, but as mentioned before, a lot of the problems stem from the actual popular characters being in abundance and all of them being m/m. and if you bring up a preference for variety, down come the cockhops or 'stop persecuting my choices'.
don't baw about bakerstreet slowing to a halt when the reason is because people are bored of the limited choices they have between popular gay guy one and popular gay guy two, followed by popular gay guy three and their sidekick twink.
so basically yaoi is killing dwrp. not the aging and unchanging userbase that offer a limited character pool and take ages to reply, not the long-dead interest in cross-canon interaction, not the same tired memes over and over again... the fact there's just not enough straight people. that's the sole problem. nailed it
i'd say it's contributing to the lack of enthusiasm in memes but not killing dwrp. most of this doesn't apply in places like games except for a few outliers
but if i air this exact same complaint about a lack of f/f, i'm a neckbeard, right?
what the above anon said. i never said it was killing dwrp, but it's certainly not helping meme culture. all the other factors come into play, yes, but along with that, we've gotten a marked increase in m/m swamping bs and more complaints about anyone who dares question it. like so. just admit that hey, there's a lot more m/m lately and maybe it would be nice for some variety instead of trying to shift the subject.
ok. suppose that's true, like... what do you even want people to do about it? rp is a hobby. it doesn't make sense to expect people to rp stuff they're not interested just to entertain strangers. what would they get out of it?
no? the fact that there's a surplus of one type of anything and complaints about wanting more of what there isn't causes this kind of defensiveness is a problem. are there f/f characters being played as m/f? because that's the core of this complaint. f characters in general seem to be fading out of dwrp, and that's a shitty thing.
i'm sorry, are people not allowed to comment about it now unless they have a fix for it?
no, but the complaints upthread sure make it sound like y'all expecting people to stop rping m/m just because it's no fun for you.
be the change. make your own cap account.
be the change. make your own cap account.
Back when I played in OC games there were usually a few kicking around. Some of them were played for the fucked upness and were kind of interesting if you could get past the initial squick, some were pure, self-indulgent porn by people who thought they were being deep and thoughtful. It was always an interesting mix of cool writers with great, creative stuff going on and people smashing their pretty PB barbies against each other in nonsensical ways they thought were thrilling.
"i want to play against x character!"
"go play x character, duh."
...that doesn't help their dilemma at all, idiot.
"go play x character, duh."
...that doesn't help their dilemma at all, idiot.
if someone wants to play against a straight version, playing the actual char themselves defeats the purpose.
for what it's worth, i've actually wound up doing just that, making the chars i've wanted to play against and it's not the same. i don't mind doing it and i play m/f versions, but half the time, i'm a shitty version because it's not my best playing type and i'd rather play with them, not as them. not that any of the m/m versions are stellar either, so it's lose lose all around.
for what it's worth, i've actually wound up doing just that, making the chars i've wanted to play against and it's not the same. i don't mind doing it and i play m/f versions, but half the time, i'm a shitty version because it's not my best playing type and i'd rather play with them, not as them. not that any of the m/m versions are stellar either, so it's lose lose all around.
doing a page find on the latest shipping meme with any kind of play on it (smut picture prompt at 300 comments) reveals there are 23 instances of "M/M" on the page, 12 "F/M" and fucking 70 "OTA"s and that's not counting people who put no prefs whatsoever in their subject lines (which i think is generally accepted to mean "ota"?) so like... i mean if you want to play het it is out there waiting for you, quit panicking about literally nothing and go have some fun
people should play an oc instead of ooc canon characters =/= people should stop playing m/m
12 "F/M"
how many of those are the f looking for the m
how many of those are the f looking for the m
sure it does, dumbass. they want to play the ship. if you're a half capable writer, you can pick up the other character and look for partners that way.
and how many of the otas are m
it's not impossible or even difficult to play out straight pairings on bs, anon. you just gotta actually try before deciding it'll never work.
it's not impossible or even difficult to play out straight pairings on bs, anon. you just gotta actually try before deciding it'll never work.
so instead of 8 gay caps you have 8 gay ocs. still no het caps for you, so why do you care?
explain to me how this works if you're the only person who plays your character in dwrp or if the pairing is crosscanon and you're only slightly familiar with the character you want to tag?
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