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wankgate2017-01-06 07:51 pm
ryanongosling) wrote in wankgate2017-01-06 07:51 pm
ugh, you hit the nail on the head
it became too much for this anon. i'm rping elsewhere even though it was hard to move. i really miss games, but at this point they're absolutely not worth it for all the shit you get for daring to do anything different, shipping or otherwise. and yet people still have the gall to complain about how nobody steps outside the box or takes risks anymore. why do you think they don't?
at least elsewhere the hatred is less visible. idc if it's shitposters stirring shit, nobody wants to be dropped on here. even if you ignore wg entirely you can't ignore the knowledge it exists and that someone might be starting shit. it's far too much stress for such a stupid hobby.
it became too much for this anon. i'm rping elsewhere even though it was hard to move. i really miss games, but at this point they're absolutely not worth it for all the shit you get for daring to do anything different, shipping or otherwise. and yet people still have the gall to complain about how nobody steps outside the box or takes risks anymore. why do you think they don't?
at least elsewhere the hatred is less visible. idc if it's shitposters stirring shit, nobody wants to be dropped on here. even if you ignore wg entirely you can't ignore the knowledge it exists and that someone might be starting shit. it's far too much stress for such a stupid hobby.
honestly, I don't think the "visibility" would be an issue if people were actually playing. there are still more than enough of us, it's just that we're so paralyzed by the perceived problem of visibility (or so lazy, or cliquey) that, for example, someone who tags out to a bunch of people on memes stands out instead of being standard enough
but the no-no master didn't answer
they just kept no-ing
they just kept no-ing
honestly? i feel like the 'laziness'/cliqueyness is a symptom of the visibility problem
people only want to play with friends or established cr because they think that might help them not get wanked on (yet it does, of course, they get called cliquey), and people often struggle to tag back simple threads just because they might think they can't do what they wanted to do so as not to cause a fuss. not every tag has to be some rule-breaking defiant action or anything but the fact that dwrp is so scrutinizing on constantly being ic and blahblah makes people less inspired to do their tags out of concern of messing up.
people only want to play with friends or established cr because they think that might help them not get wanked on (yet it does, of course, they get called cliquey), and people often struggle to tag back simple threads just because they might think they can't do what they wanted to do so as not to cause a fuss. not every tag has to be some rule-breaking defiant action or anything but the fact that dwrp is so scrutinizing on constantly being ic and blahblah makes people less inspired to do their tags out of concern of messing up.
whoops i missed your first part, sorry. agreed basically.
You should know who is running your game.
Two characters had a falling out. Players are very good friends with IC/OOC boundaries. On a deleted plurk mod Leia said something to the effect of, "Wow, this looks like ooc hostility to me." One of the players rightfully called her out on it. Player was a mod and flipped out. Other mods flipped out. Leia revealed herself to be a passive-aggressive hatchet-faced prick, trying to start a fight with anyone who would take bait. She complained about both players in a plurk viewable by the majority of the player base, but swore that since the plurk was made private, no one could see it. Mandy panicked and tried to close the game forever. Ichi was rude to everyone involved in a shoddy effort for damage control. The fourth mod was new and unprepared for the insanity so they shouldn't be blamed.
Two characters had a falling out. Players are very good friends with IC/OOC boundaries. On a deleted plurk mod Leia said something to the effect of, "Wow, this looks like ooc hostility to me." One of the players rightfully called her out on it. Player was a mod and flipped out. Other mods flipped out. Leia revealed herself to be a passive-aggressive hatchet-faced prick, trying to start a fight with anyone who would take bait. She complained about both players in a plurk viewable by the majority of the player base, but swore that since the plurk was made private, no one could see it. Mandy panicked and tried to close the game forever. Ichi was rude to everyone involved in a shoddy effort for damage control. The fourth mod was new and unprepared for the insanity so they shouldn't be blamed.
no it got bawleeted pretty fast i think. as far as the list of events i put together goes
> game plot drops with hardly any explanation, mod responsible isn't available etc etc everyone is incredibly confused, has plans in place as best they can but probably keep trying to ask mods questions about their badly planned crap
> a couple weeks later theres a modpost with more info that retcons 90% of the plans players made already. players are notably upset and some are vocal about it
> whats their face posts with their special plot hero character for the plot exposition, gets angry ic replies from 2 particular characters and plurks about it (not in a whiny way i'd say, in a 'its weird for x to be at the center of angry attention haha' and clarifying at least twice that they have no problems with negative cr and its cool)
> some mod pops into the plurk going 'holy shit i think that reads a lot more as a personal attack ooc what the fuck'*
> one of the players theyre talking about comes in and goes "its not though what the hell?! ?!!? where did you get that idea wtf'
> entire deal deleted?? it wasnt exactly that much of an argument but Ok. i guess someone makes a plurk shitstorm about leaving the game forever and how they hate it
> head mod goes on a public dramatic spiral and almost closes the entire game over one person, buttpats save the day
* i know enough about the player to know they wouldnt necessarily do that. i admit that someone who doesnt know anything about them could get that from a lot of the ic-angry tags theyve posted over time though. ive wondered if theres ooc/ic bleed sometimes since they can come off as aggressive.
i think its probably a combination of the informal nature of dwrp bracket text and the character themselves being a pretty shitty person though. as aggressive as the player can seem theyre always open and communicative about this stuff
> game plot drops with hardly any explanation, mod responsible isn't available etc etc everyone is incredibly confused, has plans in place as best they can but probably keep trying to ask mods questions about their badly planned crap
> a couple weeks later theres a modpost with more info that retcons 90% of the plans players made already. players are notably upset and some are vocal about it
> whats their face posts with their special plot hero character for the plot exposition, gets angry ic replies from 2 particular characters and plurks about it (not in a whiny way i'd say, in a 'its weird for x to be at the center of angry attention haha' and clarifying at least twice that they have no problems with negative cr and its cool)
> some mod pops into the plurk going 'holy shit i think that reads a lot more as a personal attack ooc what the fuck'*
> one of the players theyre talking about comes in and goes "its not though what the hell?! ?!!? where did you get that idea wtf'
> entire deal deleted?? it wasnt exactly that much of an argument but Ok. i guess someone makes a plurk shitstorm about leaving the game forever and how they hate it
> head mod goes on a public dramatic spiral and almost closes the entire game over one person, buttpats save the day
* i know enough about the player to know they wouldnt necessarily do that. i admit that someone who doesnt know anything about them could get that from a lot of the ic-angry tags theyve posted over time though. ive wondered if theres ooc/ic bleed sometimes since they can come off as aggressive.
i think its probably a combination of the informal nature of dwrp bracket text and the character themselves being a pretty shitty person though. as aggressive as the player can seem theyre always open and communicative about this stuff
i wondered when this games wg time would come
something about it always screamed time bomb
something about it always screamed time bomb
this was used for a dwrp character's kinklist. they didn't actually rp on f-list.
for example, someone who tags out to a bunch of people on memes stands out instead of being standard enough
exactly. people are getting villainized for actually rping in a supposedly roleplaying hobby.
this is why i've wanted to strike the word "thirsty" from the rp vernacular since forever. people are thirsty for...wanting to play? jfc, this forced aloofness we're all supposed to adopted instead of letting it slip that we genuinely want to be here having fun is insane.
we really have become a bunch of jaded, hipster assholes.
exactly. people are getting villainized for actually rping in a supposedly roleplaying hobby.
this is why i've wanted to strike the word "thirsty" from the rp vernacular since forever. people are thirsty for...wanting to play? jfc, this forced aloofness we're all supposed to adopted instead of letting it slip that we genuinely want to be here having fun is insane.
we really have become a bunch of jaded, hipster assholes.
Re: http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/03/mark-hamill-luke-skywalker-gay
(Anonymous) 2017-01-21 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)Which tittybabies took as "MY HEADCANON IS CANON DON'T YOU DARE QUESTION ME"
same. now I'm just waiting to see which one of them cries about it on plurk first
thanks for shedding light on this one
I've won the lottery multiple times then. Feels good.
Funny how at least the latter two are indeed brushed off all the time in their own canons. I'm canonblind to Firefly (though I can get why River Tam would be brushed off) and never finished watching Buffy.
Mandy had nothing to do with the game closing? She's not even a mod. She quit being one.
stop predicting how my character will react ad nauseam
*dictating
this knee-jerk annoyance is the reason why you never get the boomerang tags that you think you deserve
this knee-jerk annoyance is the reason why you never get the boomerang tags that you think you deserve
I am sorry, I had her confused for Jeni. Jeni had the game-closing meltdown in public.
"chortling flatly" anon is still here trying to force their shitty joke into a meme, huh?
rme at all these "here's my political opinion everyone on my plurk will agree with IF YOU DONT LIKE IT FUCK OFF FIGHT ME" plurks
yes, you're so brave for sharing this in an echo chamber
yes, you're so brave for sharing this in an echo chamber
i play one of those ridiculously young anime geniuses in high positions of power, and one of the things i've learned is that it's more fun to acknowledge how outlandish your character is, be willing to play with it, and to explore their flaws as much as you explore their strengths. surprise surprise, i rarely, if ever, have noticed a medium divide problem when i play them.
those plurks and the ones that are actively encouraging violence against the other side of the argument (or celebrating actual people getting hurt) i can't mute fast enough. seen quite a few of them lately and i've seriously lost respect for some folks because of it.
political discourse as a whole on plurk is pretty pathetic because we're 99% liberal and mostly aligned on the same issues, so i don't know why people even bother other than the echo chamber/buttpat effect.
political discourse as a whole on plurk is pretty pathetic because we're 99% liberal and mostly aligned on the same issues, so i don't know why people even bother other than the echo chamber/buttpat effect.
try and play with everyone, you're spreading yourself too thin
play with just a few people, you're being cliquey
play a villain, you're an asshole
play a hero, you're a goody-goody
play a strong character, you're a godmoder/powergamer
play an oc, lol
actively participate in the game, you're a gloryhog/smearing yourself everywhere
actively participate on plurk, you're being annoying
drop a thread or two, you're a flake
thread with castmates, you're insular
initiate any form of character development even slightly beyond canon, you're being ooc
play strictly according to canon, you're boring
ship m/m, you're a yaoi fanbrat
ship m/f, you're a cockhop
ship f/f, you're a neckbeard
ship anything at all, WHY IS THIS GAME SO FULL OF SHIPPING IT'S REALLY ANNOYING GUYS
and the list honestly goes on and on. i'm strongly considering giving up games altogether myself because i'm fucking sick of doing ANYTHING in a game and risking coming under fire. at least in a musebox i'm not under a microscope all the time, that's what i hate most of all about what the community's become. you can't even play anymore without someone getting assblasted about it. it sucks because i really like playing together with lots of people with a running plot and all that jazz, but with lots of people comes lots of butthurt and i'm tired of it.
play with just a few people, you're being cliquey
play a villain, you're an asshole
play a hero, you're a goody-goody
play a strong character, you're a godmoder/powergamer
play an oc, lol
actively participate in the game, you're a gloryhog/smearing yourself everywhere
actively participate on plurk, you're being annoying
drop a thread or two, you're a flake
thread with castmates, you're insular
initiate any form of character development even slightly beyond canon, you're being ooc
play strictly according to canon, you're boring
ship m/m, you're a yaoi fanbrat
ship m/f, you're a cockhop
ship f/f, you're a neckbeard
ship anything at all, WHY IS THIS GAME SO FULL OF SHIPPING IT'S REALLY ANNOYING GUYS
and the list honestly goes on and on. i'm strongly considering giving up games altogether myself because i'm fucking sick of doing ANYTHING in a game and risking coming under fire. at least in a musebox i'm not under a microscope all the time, that's what i hate most of all about what the community's become. you can't even play anymore without someone getting assblasted about it. it sucks because i really like playing together with lots of people with a running plot and all that jazz, but with lots of people comes lots of butthurt and i'm tired of it.
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