nah, i get that. but it just keeps feeding into why tdms are pointless. you see people calling them unwelcoming and no one's tagging them, wah. a lot of people avoid tdms because they're concentrating on stuff in their game and don't want to waste time on stuff that might not even pan through when they have actual game shit to deal with. it's a self feeding cycle. game players don't play/look on the tdm because of wanting to concentrate on game tags, and people complain that a game is unwelcoming because of a lukewarm or non-reception on a tdm. all this talk about tdms makes me hate them, and i've stopped using them and looking at them for my games.