Re: DEER COUNTRY

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
TBH Milk had been talking about making this game for awhile and it was not secret. I have no idea if hyperfixating on this game is why they went on hiatus from working on Deer but Milk had always talked like they would be doing both games at once.

Re: PLURK PET PEEVES

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
what other games besides Deer County did Milk mod?

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
nice goalpost moving

no, of course not, but if anything wank has gotten less vicious over the years (i remember a time when people would run here to whine if they found events slightly bland), so it's weird to act like mods are just quaking in their boots about wankgate. we have less mods because we have less players and those players we do have tend to have less time.

Re: PLURK PET PEEVES

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
she's just an annoying edgelord. i don't hate her but her personality is grating to me and that comes through in her modding and writing style, so i try to avoid her as much as possible.

there's a pretty vocal contingent on here though who hate her or used to hate her because they think rping underage sex is gross and that attitude has stuck around: https://wankgate.dreamwidth.org/55847.html?thread=216462887#cmt216462887

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
lmao did you think "this month" was a goalpost

Re: PLURK PET PEEVES

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
lmao like 80 percent of us are annoying edgelords and/or rp underaged sex

but i guess i shouldnt have expected anything less from wg

didnt even think there were anymore anti types around here

Re: Duplicity

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
if had meaningfully modded multiple big games before then you would know the answer to this. it would be VERY OBVIOUS to the point that you couldn't fail to notice it.

since you're obviously misrepresenting your experience level i'll tell you: it's because it takes a lot of additional time and effort to deal with exceptions. one exception is easy. but once you grant it, everyone wants exceptions, and you will look arbitrary and mean accepting some and denying others no matter what your rationale is or how publicly and clearly you explain it. it's less wanky to deny exceptions even when they are minor, because otherwise you get the big wankstorm of "why did X get an exception and I, I mean my friend, didn't?"

if this was a "mistake" situation, maybe a correction would be possible, as long as it was very clear that the issue was "mistake." but that isn't really the issue here. so what's the justification that will allow this exception in without opening the door to everyone else's exceptions?

da

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
nfn anon but this whole situation if it happened would have been done in screened comments, so if they granted the request nobody would probably have known about it beside the player and the mods. so the argument that it would mean everyone would try it doesn't hold water because it wouldn't have been a public act anyway.

Re: Duplicity

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
you could say "what's the harm of just this once?" to pretty much every rule

the problem is that if you make the exception "just this once," you set a precedent. if you can't foresee what kind of trouble such a precedent could invite in a game like dupe, then i implore you to think harder

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
that player would post on plurk and it would become a Thing in no time flat anon, don't be oblivious

Re: PLURK PET PEEVES

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah there were some anons hanging out on here for a good couple of years who seemed to be really buttblasted about milk and her character choices. i still think they were/are probably people who were banned from deer and just wanted to destroy the game in revenge.

Re: Duplicity

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
remember the awful Roy Mustang player?

that player also contacted the mods before they apped to ask please please please could their character be a submissive because it would be so uncomfortable for them to play a dominant because of past trauma and personal issues (which I can only guess, given the player's incredible social ineptitude, they probably way overshared on)

and the mods told them to go use a door pass

the door pass is clearly there in no small part so that the mods don't have to field a load of players acting like special snowflakes who are going to dump a load of personal overshares on them that they shouldn't have to do the emotional work of fielding

they don't need to read all your personal issues or IC/OOC bleed about why you do or don't want to play a dominant or a submissive and they don't need to make rulings on the basis of whether the case you present is legit. there's a game mechanic built in so that they don't have to field that stuff because players can take responsibility for themselves

some asshole not taking responsibility for themselves and then going to whine to the mods about how uncomfy they are is selfish, entitled bullshit behavior and there should not be a precedent set of the mods rewarding it by giving in to them

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
you have also never modded before.

player 1 gets the exception in screened comments. it's not public.
player 2 is friends with player 1. player 2 asks for an exception and is turned down. they mention it on plurk. player 1 says "that's weird, the mods let me have an exception for X."

now it's public, and also wanky.

anon below you

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
lol

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
if you think they would then you don't know anything about them anon. they're hardly ever on plurk at all.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
private plurks =/= public

(frozen comment) Re: Duplicity

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
hi em

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
don't fucking shift from the general case to the specific case whenever you feel like it, and also it doesn't fucking matter because that STILL costs a ton of mod time to determine and adjudicate. now you're telling all mods to track all players' plurk participation. dumbass. just shut up and know you were wrong.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
gee whiz this thread doesnt exist because that player hardly posts on plurk

thats funny i could have sworn was i just posting in here

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
you're right, nothing that player posted on their private plurk would ever end up being discussed in public

never ever

Re: anon below you

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
sad former mod brofist

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
op was specifically bringing up wank from this month as if it was exceptionally nasty towards mods

address the other points in the comment instead of just "lol but other wank has happened before"

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
sorry if you already failed college then it's not my job to teach you how to read

Re: dda

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
she's always been like this, it's nothing new or unique

even when she was playing akito (as yet another self insert, no less) she would constantly jump into plurks where her cr was talking with someone she didn't like, even plurks about games she wasn't in, and derail the convo for hundreds of comments to make it about akito

Re: PLURK PET PEEVES

(Anonymous) 2022-04-27 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
this is so fucking milquetoast.

i mean i'm not surprised it wound up here because wg would cease to exist if not for anons immediately taking the most bad faith read of a situation they can and running to wg to post about it with all the haste they can muster, but even by those standards this is extremely dull.