exactly. it's not an issue of unavoidable, it's just obnoxious to the point of second-hand embarrassment to see a fandom steer so hard into how their canon is ~not like other canons~ without a hint of irony, because in both cases the canon itself takes that approach.

like, if hazbin fans just owned that the show tries way too hard, it wouldn't be annoying. there's nothing wrong with liking and being entertained by something like that, even if the canon tries to pretend it isn't that way. the fans being self-aware makes a difference imo

its like when people who play characters from disney stuff insist their canon isn't for kids because it deals with dark themes. kids movies/shows can do that, it's still for kids. doesn't make liking it bad, but be real

i do think hazbin is particularly funny because you can really see how so many rpers are still in their "it's not just a phase!" phase