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so how about that feferi-mun's ac meltdown?

While I agree with her point that I'm not fond of having min thread length requirements the way she handled it was pretty bad. You knew what you were getting into when you apped in the first place.

olesia's responses weren't exactly great either though.. probably could have handled the player with a little more tact esp her being head mod and all

That was a lot more politeness than that tittybaby deserved, IMO.

tbh i don't think it matters how pathetic the player is. mods should conduct themselves a certain way regardless.. esp olesia cause hasn't she gotten into a fight with a player before or did something signed in on one of the anon comms?

She didn't conduct herself poorly. She was just factual about it. She didn't give anymore or any less so that it was still clear but she also wasn't setting a standard of debating the AC rules every time someone throws a hissyfit about failing activity standards they've known about for seven months. There's a time and a place for that and it's not when you're pissed off that you failed and are trying to fight it.

the fact that you're reading a very concise, matter-of-fact tone as aggression motivated by a perceived grudge makes me think you have a bad case of tittybaby yourself, anon. or you're the feferi player or one of their friends. or you're just trying to deflect, in which case, stop stirring shit.

olesia wasn't rude or aggressive or anything at any point despite the fact that the player was clearly very defensive and bordering on hostile themselves. she upheld the rules and refused to bend and pointed out that that player didn't make activity and the rules about that have been there all along.

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but how would you propose to do activity checks without a minimum thread count? I'm just genuinely puzzled since that seems like the standard for most games, and it ensures that people won't just squat by tagging a bunch of different things and then dropping too prematurely.

I prefer having a total comment count period (sort of like towerofanimus though I think their AC is a little lax) and mods having to reserve the right to ask for more activity if it's over like six tiny threads. I just feel like asking for a min comment count for each thread kind of penalizes characters who aren't chatty and are quick to the point. As well as having a min comment count doesn't ensure people won't just drop the thread once the AC requirement is reached, but no AC is perfect and squatters will always find a way around it.

Again, it's their right if that's the way they want to have AC (and it's a reasonable AC) and I have no sympathy from someone who should know what AC requirements are to begin with. But I'm just saying I can see her point on how min comment counts for each thread can kind of hinder people who are active but tend to wrap up threads a comment or two under the requirements.

From personal experience, when you have activity more open-ended you get a lot of people bitching about it being "inconsistent" when the mods ask for more. Also as a player I hate have to guess whether or not I have enough, even if by most reasonable standards I do. Setting a finite number eliminates any uncertainties

Good point, I haven't seen this happen personally in games that have a comment count total but I wouldn't be surprised that it happens.

While I can see your point about non-chatty characters, I play several of them and never have a problem making AC within the game's system. The same logic could be applied to antisocial characters then having to tag into a number of different posts in order to reach a grand total and, all in all, I think having 3+ links going might be a little confusing and inefficient for the mods. Obviously yeah, no AC system is perfect, but I think CnC's is lenient enough to find a way around characters less suited to network spam. I also kind of agree with the above anon's thoughts on the potential for it to appear inconsistent, and that I wouldn't want to risk playing guess work with my AC stuff. Also in the case of Feferi, you're not dealing with a non-chatty character.

I think we're on about the same page on that issue though, I was just curious about a non-minimum thread length AC system. Thanks for clarifying.

No problem and I do think your arguments raise a good point. I'm canonblind to Homestuck and haven't threaded with Feferis enough to gauge personality so I'm glad you cleared that up for me.

c&c's ac isn't my cup of tea, either (though i understand and respect the mods' reasons for it), but the player should have read the rules more carefully when they joined. it's their own fault that they got into this mess.

my favorite thing is the statement that it screws over people who might want to scramble to meet a/c at the last minute! OH NOES!

Even if that were true, that would preferable. I hate in my other games where its like, oh look, its time for the pre-a/c sudden burst of activity from twenty players who will stop responding the instant they have it!

I think olesia was very curt and to the point. The argument Funk was trying to make had already been discussed when AC was changed and I agree with olesia's standing on it. It's always people that make bare minimum that argue about past months' threads being used for AC. Feferi is almost never around and it's really discouraging to people that like the character and want CR with her when they're basically squatting and firing out just enough to make AC- if even.

There really wasn't anything else olesia could have said about it that she hadn't already. She clarified the rules and the actual AC is not the place to be trying to weasel out of the rules for your own benefit. If Funk felt strongly about changing the AC and asked elsewhere when they weren't on the chopping block, I don't doubt the mods would have responded favorably or at least considered opening a public discussion about it all over again.

This seemed like a relevant thing to link in case people missed it.

tw for rape and general badness: http://wankgate.dreamwidth.org/14238.html?thread=41431966#cmt41431966

Holy shit, for real. D8 That poor girl.

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