I'm as skeeved as you are about learning about this, but that doesn't really read as anything excusing himself to me? Certainly not to the level of Ken.
It's an "I did this, it was fucked up, I'm sorry." I was skimming so I might have missed things, but it read like an apology rather than an excuse to me.
Do you fucking remember Ken's? The difference between these two is night and goddamn day. Ken's read like a fucking Playboy letter and was victim-blamey as shit.
Look, I'm not defending the dude or his actions, I think it's scummy as fuck, but this comes close to the level of "actual apology" than Ken's ever could.
>I pressured my girlfriend into sex >from her perspective it was undeniably rape >If she says that it happened as related - a punch by her head - then that is how it must have happened. >It was an insultingly childish and thoughtless action >what she experienced that night was in every sense rape
I'm going to for a moment give him the benefit of the doubt and say okay, I'll take your word for it, you didn't intend to threaten her and may in fact have no idea that's what you were doing. And with that in mind, I can see why you might have trouble connecting intent to consequence.
ok here's the thing funk since i know you'll surely fucking read this so you can continue to feel sorry for yourself and like this experience has made you grow and change for the better!!!
you are not allowed to feel sad or traumatized. you are not fucking allowed to play that card. you don't know what it's like to be afraid for your life or to feel someone else invading YOUR BODY for THEIR PLEASURE. your thoughtlessness in even thinking that we're all somehow obligated to sympathize with you is fucking disgusting.
you play out rape scenarios. you are aware that you are a rapist.
you advocate for women's rights and for "educating" "boys" for the better, but you pretty fucking much do nothing and you think you're somehow entitled to our attention and pity. this isn't outlining the facts like YES THIS IS RAPE this was I THOUGHT I WAS ENTITLED TO SEX WITH MY GIRLFRIEND BUT OH I DIDN'T KNOW THAT HER BODY MEANS HER CHOICES BOO HOO HOO I WAS INCAPABLE OF BASIC FUCKING COMMON SENSE.
you will never understand what it's like to be a rape victim. you will never have to cope with feeling broken, or being afraid to kiss your partner, or being terrified to be exposed to them or be intimate because you can't guarantee you aren't going to flash back and just feel pain. those are things you will never, ever, ever have to cope with.
so, no, you're not allowed to feel sad or traumatized. you can feel fucking guilt and you SHOULD, and you should want to do something so other people understand that NO DOESN'T MEAN BULLY ME UNTIL I SAY YES - but you're not a fucking martyr for the cause. you raped someone. that's the fact. you're not confessing, you're excusing.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 04:32 am (UTC)(link)Re: FUNK
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 04:34 am (UTC)(link)What an absolutely disgusting person. I hope he never shows his face in DWRP ever again.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 04:37 am (UTC)(link)Funk, rot in hell.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 04:38 am (UTC)(link)I'm as skeeved as you are about learning about this, but that doesn't really read as anything excusing himself to me? Certainly not to the level of Ken.
It's an "I did this, it was fucked up, I'm sorry." I was skimming so I might have missed things, but it read like an apology rather than an excuse to me.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 04:42 am (UTC)(link)rape is not in the eye of the beholder. anyone who thinks it is has some issues and needs to educate themselves.
Re: FUNK
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 04:42 am (UTC)(link)read again.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 04:54 am (UTC)(link)Re: FUNK
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 04:56 am (UTC)(link)Re: FUNK
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 04:58 am (UTC)(link)da
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 05:02 am (UTC)(link)Look, I'm not defending the dude or his actions, I think it's scummy as fuck, but this comes close to the level of "actual apology" than Ken's ever could.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 04:39 am (UTC)(link)+1
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 04:40 am (UTC)(link)Re: FUNK
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 04:40 am (UTC)(link)>from her perspective it was undeniably rape
>If she says that it happened as related - a punch by her head - then that is how it must have happened.
>It was an insultingly childish and thoughtless action
>what she experienced that night was in every sense rape
Completely in denial about being a rapist.
Re: FUNK
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 04:43 am (UTC)(link)But still jesus christ man. Own up to it.
tw rape but this entire fucking thread is tw rape
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 05:04 am (UTC)(link)you are not allowed to feel sad or traumatized. you are not fucking allowed to play that card. you don't know what it's like to be afraid for your life or to feel someone else invading YOUR BODY for THEIR PLEASURE. your thoughtlessness in even thinking that we're all somehow obligated to sympathize with you is fucking disgusting.
you play out rape scenarios. you are aware that you are a rapist.
you advocate for women's rights and for "educating" "boys" for the better, but you pretty fucking much do nothing and you think you're somehow entitled to our attention and pity. this isn't outlining the facts like YES THIS IS RAPE this was I THOUGHT I WAS ENTITLED TO SEX WITH MY GIRLFRIEND BUT OH I DIDN'T KNOW THAT HER BODY MEANS HER CHOICES BOO HOO HOO I WAS INCAPABLE OF BASIC FUCKING COMMON SENSE.
you will never understand what it's like to be a rape victim. you will never have to cope with feeling broken, or being afraid to kiss your partner, or being terrified to be exposed to them or be intimate because you can't guarantee you aren't going to flash back and just feel pain. those are things you will never, ever, ever have to cope with.
so, no, you're not allowed to feel sad or traumatized. you can feel fucking guilt and you SHOULD, and you should want to do something so other people understand that NO DOESN'T MEAN BULLY ME UNTIL I SAY YES - but you're not a fucking martyr for the cause. you raped someone. that's the fact. you're not confessing, you're excusing.
get the fuck out of dwrp and don't look back.
+a million
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 05:11 am (UTC)(link)Re: FUNK (tw: rape)
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 05:24 am (UTC)(link)also, if i was asked to not talk about something in public i wouldn't make "anniversary" plurks about it jfc
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 05:38 am (UTC)(link)I'm not sure what more one can do to not rape again other than NOT RAPING AGAIN JESUS CHRIST
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 05:44 am (UTC)(link)i'd prefer reassurances that he's going to therapy or...something, idk
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 10:03 am (UTC)(link)