I don't get it. It doesn't really come off as him having a holier than thou attitude. Yes, he made the conversation about himself, but that was because he's inviting conversation with his views on the matter? If anything, it read to me that he's willing to talk about the article and the topics it brings up, but doesn't want to come off has being an asshole or being insensitive to a clearly hot-button subject.
he's basically saying "I don't like that I get shut down for my opinions so I don't want to talk about this yet I'm going to rant about how much I don't want to talk about it"
if you don't want to get into a discussion about sexism, don't bring it up at all
that being said, he's not inviting conversation. he's declaring his opinion and telling other people how to talk. he's using the article as a springboard for his own personal rant. i doubt he'd take it well if someone came in and challenged him.
plus, while he doesn't seem to be mra manboobz material, he absolutely comes off as holier-than-thou and unable to consider the perspectives of others.
like, seriously? women are "inundating" him with the "latest outrage du joir" in an effort to "energize" him? maybe they just see him as a safe friend they can vent their frustrations to, and have a bad reaction when he tells them he's not interested.
Why not? I clearly missed a lot of the undertones (as overt as they were) and I appreciate having it pointed out to me. I don't know the dude and couldn't give two shits about him one way or the other, a wanksplosion is the least of my concerns.
If people get upset over my misinterpretation or lack of understanding with regards to his plurk, that's fine - it happens - but as it stands, I'm still glad that someone made the effort to show it to me.
then you're welcome (another touching wankgate moment)
again, it seems like he's less actively hateful and more obnoxiously oblivious, and i bet a lot of the anons here are just going UGH WHY ARE PEOPLE LIKE THIS and venting
just to add on to what the previous anons had to say, it's also about how made the conversation about himself and tried to pass himself off as a martyr and a victim in a feminist discussion, because talking about it has cost him so many friiiiends and he feels so marginalized in the discussion and shut down as the women with experience and lives dealing with the very real effects of sexism disagree with him, omg.
basically, there are a lot of people who are negatively impacted by sexism in our society. he doesn't get to pretend to be one of these people because discussions of sexism make him feel bad and make his friends not like him.
sure, it's possible that he's friends with a bunch of hair-trigger misandrists (hahaha), but if people have ditched him left and right after trying to discuss matters of gender equality with him, chances are that he's the problem, not them
Tbh, any time someone has the same problem, over and over again, with multiple unconnected people (in this case, getting ditched by people after trying to discuss sexism with them)...
Chances are good that the problem is with the one person who is the one constant factor in all of those different interaction.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-09 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2013-04-09 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)if you don't want to get into a discussion about sexism, don't bring it up at all
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-09 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)Seems like a stupid plurk, but not really something I'd get up in arms about or worry about who/where he plays.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-09 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)that being said, he's not inviting conversation. he's declaring his opinion and telling other people how to talk. he's using the article as a springboard for his own personal rant. i doubt he'd take it well if someone came in and challenged him.
plus, while he doesn't seem to be mra manboobz material, he absolutely comes off as holier-than-thou and unable to consider the perspectives of others.
like, seriously? women are "inundating" him with the "latest outrage du joir" in an effort to "energize" him? maybe they just see him as a safe friend they can vent their frustrations to, and have a bad reaction when he tells them he's not interested.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-09 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)Re: ayrt
(Anonymous) 2013-04-09 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)in the end this isn't worth more than a sigh and maybe avoiding him in the future but there's still time for a wanksplosion
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-09 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)If people get upset over my misinterpretation or lack of understanding with regards to his plurk, that's fine - it happens - but as it stands, I'm still glad that someone made the effort to show it to me.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-09 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)again, it seems like he's less actively hateful and more obnoxiously oblivious, and i bet a lot of the anons here are just going UGH WHY ARE PEOPLE LIKE THIS and venting
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-09 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)basically, there are a lot of people who are negatively impacted by sexism in our society. he doesn't get to pretend to be one of these people because discussions of sexism make him feel bad and make his friends not like him.
sure, it's possible that he's friends with a bunch of hair-trigger misandrists (hahaha), but if people have ditched him left and right after trying to discuss matters of gender equality with him, chances are that he's the problem, not them
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-09 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)Chances are good that the problem is with the one person who is the one constant factor in all of those different interaction.
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(Anonymous) 2013-04-10 04:44 am (UTC)(link)