the thing is that these people don't realize that. schlock can be incredibly fun but not when people pick and analyze it to death under the impression that there's a deeper meaning to it all. pseudo intellectualism ruined this fandom.

pretty sure it ruined the series too because no way in hell am i supposed to believe that in any way shape or form mgs4 was supposed to be touching or gripping in any way. that final boss fist fight is the funniest thing I've ever seen.