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Re: TORA

[(Anonymous)]

sounds like you're the one twisting words. where do you get people should treat her with kid gloves from

saying you hope someone is suicidal versus pretending to be is a shitty thing to say and removes any moral high ground.

full stop.

stop trying to act like a middle schooler with BUT SHE SAID! AND SHE DID! AND I'M NOT BEING A DOUCHE MORE THAN SHE IS! IT'S JUSTIFIED!

you're not justified wishing somebody is suicidal. twist in the wind like sheets in a hurricane. it doesn't make you any more right.

da

[(Anonymous)]

ideally she wouldn't threaten suicide at all, i don't want to see anyone die

but if a person is threatening suicide i would rather they be serious than faking, mostly because every time someone fakes it, the higher the chances are of a serious threat not being believed

suicide is not something to be taken lightly, all anyone is saying is that they hope all claims of suicidal intent are serious, not because they want someone to hurt themselves but because faking that kind of thing is absolutely heinous

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

that's a slippery slope to be on, isn't it? not every suicide threat is going to be followed through. are we going to call all of those fake?

i don't disagree with your comment. just wanted to point out that it's difficult to define these things as real or fake.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

i'm not sure if you're flatlanding, the person we are discussing habitually threatens suicide to manipulate, that's what i mean by faking

Re: TORA

[(Anonymous)]

"wow I sure am glad they were lying and were causing deliberate emotional and psychological harm to the people who still care about them!"

get fucked, anon. I'd rather know Tora isn't lying because this sort of posturing is abusive, full stop.

Re: TORA

[(Anonymous)]

like the anons above me have said: if tora isn't being serious about her intentions, she's being manipulative and abusive to the people that still give a shit about her.

full stop.

that's it. that's all there is to it.

the only one doing any twisting here is you. to the point you're becoming a goddamn contortionist to try to make us all sound like we're devious assholes wishing for her to die. i'm not going to keep arguing with you so you can feel morally superior or continue to lambast me for shit i'm not - and no one else - is saying.

if tora is your friend, you're not helping her or yourself by coming here and being a twat. go to her and actually help her get the help she very clearly needs.