wankgate | 163: stealing 40 cakes from the walmart bakery does not warrant life in prison

that doesn't make this hypothetical bi dude NOT bisexual, though. there is a huge difference between not being an OUT bisexual, which you are right was generally rare in early 20th century America, and just plain not being bisexual.

are we really having the argument that he's totally bi because he didn't say he wasn't?

are you really arguing that he's totally straight because he didn't say he wasn't

the point is that we don't fuckin know, he could be bi or he could be not bi

anything to justify cocklust, eh?

no, but you're full of shit if you think i'll believe that you weren't saying just what i said you were.

Hypothetically speaking, it's just as true as him being straight. It's Schrodinger's sexuality. Until any given person outright states their preference in a true and honest way, you can assume they're just about anything.

btw, my point isn't about Steve specifically, it could be about any character, male or female or otherwise, from any time period. implying someone *can't* be any level of queer just because they're from a certain period of geopolitical history is nonsense.

schrodinger's sexuality usually applies to character who have had no onscreen expression of their sexuality though. this is just the typical thing where someone will pretend a straight dude is bisexual to justify whatever dude they want to ship him with, then act like it's gonna happen in canon any day now when it will absolutely never happen in canon.

I'm not saying that doesn't happen, and I'm not saying it'll ever be canon, but there's nothing wrong in playing a hypothetical character from any given time period prior to the 70's as bi, because time period isn't a justification of sexuality, it's more an issue of how comfortable any given queer person would be with being out.

People use bi to justify flowing to dick all the time, don't get me wrong, but the counterargument of "BUT THEY'RE FROM X TIME THEY WOULDN'T BE BI" is just as stupid.

there are characters pre 1970 that are written as bi and either have basis in reality if they're historical figures, or basis in their characterization. marquis de sade, dorian grey, oscar wilde, caligula, so on and so forth. bisexuality and homosexuality has existed for as long as humanity has. soldiers constantly screwed one another while away at battle and it was just considered the norm back in ye olden roman days and the like. and that's reality. earlier chars can and have been written as bi/gay, ala dorian grey.

but the idea of 'bi until proven otherwise' only applies if sexuality/interest has never come up. in this particular instance, steve rogers has so far only shown romantic leanings towards women. the argument then shifts to 'well, just because he's never said it...', which isn't necessarily untrue, but is really just a way to grasp at straws to try to make something more legitimate than it is. play him as bi. but don't expect people to agree that it's canon. same as any other fandom where one specific gender has been preferred but 'THEY NEVER SAID OTHERWISE' is the standing argument.

we're not talking about steve, specifically, we're talking about an above anon that used the excuse that steve is from a certain time period as to why he couldn't be bi, when that's a shitty excuse no matter who the character is. if it was just "unlikely to be bi due to only showing interest in women", that argument holds a ton more water. no one even said it was canon, either. the whole point is that time period doesn't determine sexuality.

the conversation was trying to move on past that, because i think we all recognize that anon was dumb as hell, and their statements aren't the entirety of the argument against

Why do you care so much about protecting the precious heterosexuality of fictional characters?

cockluuuuuuuust, get your cocklust here!

Nah, I like vag. Cocks are weird looking and not that interesting to look at.

says you. i'd rather play with a pork slinky than swat at meat curtains.

new post title pls

that's the second comment of mine this post that's been suggested. my snark must be on fleek.

it's a gift

if you're swatting at them you're doing it wrong

what a horrifying and hilarious mental image

163: stealing 40 cakes from the walmart bakery does not warrant life in prison

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