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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
that's... weird. i can understand why they would nix it for any sexy or adult-themed threads but what's wrong with interacting with kid npcs in a 100% gen thread?

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's bc in a setting like Duplicity's even 100% gen threads are sort of...not? Because the natives are all born either marked as Submissives or unmarked as Dominants, that whole D/S system extends even to the children. But what does that mean in terms of actual interactions between people?

As soon as you let players interact with children even in gen ways, you open the door to players asking questions about this whole side of the city's culture that I think the mods really don't want to do any world building on. And ok, fair enough, they don't want to touch that or risk being pressured to pin those elements down.

Hostile and unreasonable as the mod team is now, I also always try to remember that this is a game whose creator and original head mod died, and it passed into the hands of other people. I don't want to speculate too much but it's not too hard to imagine that at some point the will to do any world building around that aspect was just lost with changes of leadership. Personally, I don't think it's a big deal because this isn't a game where anyone needs to be interacting with the kids.

I think just saying no children is much less an issue than all the weird and contradictory micromanaging about interactions with adult NPCs, gangs and gang members, this stuff with the SIN guards, an economy that's supposed to be incomprehensibly ring-fenced, the flip-flopping on npc-run businesses, and so so many other things.

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 11:01 am (UTC)(link)
'a game whose creator and original head mod died'

oh whoa that's so sad. :( i hope the family and friends of the head mod are doing well.

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
it was in october 2020. i think it's easy to forget that she created the whole game and the premise was essentially just handed over to the helper mods, which might explain why they're unwilling to do much with it. people who criticise the mod team would do well to remind themselves of what circumstances they've been working under.

personally i think the whole game could do with being rewritten from the ground up and the setting revived but times being what they are i can understand why nobody has the energy to do that.

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
no, sorry, the head mod dying (while horribly sad) is not a reason not to criticize the current mods for being rude, unresponsive and unhelpful when their player base make requests, or for letting the game grow into a rut. it was over a year and a half ago and they also recruited new mods several times since then, so many of the team won't have worked with the former head mod at all. based on what other players are saying about the early days of the game, it doesn't seem like the current mod team are following the old head mod's example in terms of responsiveness and adaptability either.

if they're unhappy or don't want to put the work in anymore, hand the game over to someone else. i know there are people who'd step up.

but hey pour one out for that one time the whole game got a lecture on how we could ruin future plots because some characters made their magic cupid wings a color other than white.

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
How many games have actually survived being handed over to someone else?

Nobody wants to mod in this community anymore, and the people who usually jump up at the chance to take over something already-established are more often than not the worst possible candidates for modship.

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Victory Road's the first one that's still around and comes to mind.

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
modding is a young man's game lbr

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
i think ryslig also went through a total mod replacement and is obviously still going

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
but then they could easily deal with that by coming up with a reason not to have kids in the city in the first place so that it wouldn't even be an issue

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
There are no truly gen threads in a city where at any moment a dominant could be flogging a sub in the streets.

The rule came to be though after a problem player wrote a post up that was so creepy about their muse interacting with the kids and making the kids the focus of the post. Not surprising this player is the reason behind a lot of rules now including the assets ruling. They felt more open to ideas and giving players an inch until that bitch kept taking a whole mile every time they tried to be accommodating.

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
that player and some others who had absolutely ridiculous houses and businesses their first month in the game. i dropped not too long after all that went down for unrelated reasons. there were a lot of problem players and a lot of players being assholes when asked to dial it back.

as much as it sucks that a whole player base gets restrictions based on the actions of some persistent bad faith actors i can also see the other side of it. when you give people an inch and they take a whole mile sooner or later you get tired of dealing with it so you close the loopholes for everybody.

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
deets on the post or character? I'd be interested to read it

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
the existence of child npcs in a city where there are regularly adults (and underage characters) fucking in public in broad daylight isn't a concept that a lot of people want to engage with for obvious reasons

this is actually one of the areas of the game where i 100% agree with the mods decision. there's no way to include kids in the setting that isn't creepy to some degree

Re: DUPLICITY

(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
then why not say there aren't any kids in the setting at all instead of saying "kids are there but you're not allowed to talk about it"

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
bc it's a city

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
because at the start of the game it was said that kids exist

it was grandfathered into the setting and now taking it out would be way more trouble than just saying "ok, it exists, we're not touching it"

keep up would you

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
wow yeah totally

because rp mods never write mass events that change the landscape of their setting amirite. they're just so much trouble.

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
how stupid and tone deaf are you?

a mass event about all the kids vanishing from a dystopian sex city would be the exact opposite having people not engage with kids in the dystopian sex city. it would literally be making the entire game ~~think of the children!!~~ for a whole month

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
because making "there are kids living in sex city who are branded as doms or subs since birth but your characters aren't allowed to have an opinion about how fucked up that is" official game policy isn't dumb at all

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"we want to be dark"







"not that dark"

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
It really is the worst of both worlds huh

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-08 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm just imagining the little german boy getting lost at the folsom street fair

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-09 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
oh mein Gott zees is ein Strasse full of Kinkenfücken

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(Anonymous) 2022-03-09 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Rip is everywhere