Re: JIGOKU-CHO

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
>gsai has been in the game since it opened so they had the informed decision about where they play and who they associate with for six months and could have chosen to avoid the game or dropped at any point before this

>gsai has had one of highest ranked characters in tamamo for a long time and a character involved in two other factions so while it is possible to never interact with their characters they can potentially be hard to avoid if you wanted to avoid them as a player, especially if your character is in tamamo

even before the anonfailing outed them as a mod there were red flags warning people who don't want to be in gsai's orbit if they wanted to read those as red flags, but people have a million excuses why it was okay for them to join gsai's home game and then be shocked when gsai is more involved in their home game than anyone could have imagined.

i have an analogy for you
it's like you see a cockroach and then you're shocked when, after you move into your new apartment, there are a lot more cockroaches living there than you thought. you can try and exterminate them but it's probably easier if you just find somewhere else to live because if the infestation gets out of hand the only people willing to stick around will be the squatters who never cared about the roaches to begin with and the roaches themselves.

Re: JIGOKU-CHO

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
no, anon, it's like moving into an apartment full of cockroaches in full awareness that you have to deal with gross cockroaches in your apt, then discovering the gross cockroaches have tiny cameras strapped to them and the guy who you thought was just your gross cockroachy next door neighbor actually has access to everything private that you have said to your landlord, including about the next door neighbor himself.

you signed up for one gross thing but not the other and you could not have come up with the other thing just on the evidence of the first thing.

go fuck yourself.

Re: JIGOKU-CHO

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
what

Re: JIGOKU-CHO

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
this is gonna be the threads most underrated comment

Re: JIGOKU-CHO

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
in your analogy its still a fucking problem that there are cockroaches and i am well within my rights to be shocked and outraged that someone is renting an actively infested unit, you dipshit

in your analogy you're the "just move" bootlicker who thinks its fine for a landlord to be criminally negligent with regards to the tenants hes supposed to be working for

Re: JIGOKU-CHO

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
again nobody is telling you that you can't be outraged

only that you should take responsibility for your own thoughts, actions, and feelings and remove yourself from a situation that has clearly not been a place you want to be from the moment you walked in

Re: JIGOKU-CHO

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
so youre still the "just move" bootlicker who thinks criminal negligence on the part of the landlord is fine and everyone who doesnt like it should just find a new place to live rather than expect better from the people who are supposed to provide a habitable place for them to live

cool

Re: JIGOKU-CHO

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
the difference is that the mods are not being paid, so i don't expect the mods to "work for me" and you're conflating a dumb analogy with real-life serious issues like "criminal negligence" instead of "seeing bug is bad so i go where things are bug-free". the mods are basically running the sandbox i opt into playing in, so if the sandbox is full of roaches i'm going to leave

Re: JIGOKU-CHO

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
so youre still the "just move" bootlicker who thinks criminal negligence on the part of the landlord is fine and everyone who doesnt like it should just find a new place to live rather than expect better from the people who are supposed to provide a habitable place for them to live







cool

Re: JIGOKU-CHO

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
do you think it was ok for gsai to lie to people? is there a personal responsibility move that should have happened there?

Re: JIGOKU-CHO

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
hey do you think gsai should step down as mod or that the mods who arent gsai should apologize to their playerbase

Re: JIGOKU-CHO

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
no, because if the mods are their friends they are fully within their rights to mod a game that they allow their friend to play in even if their friend has a shit reputation. it's their game and they are not providing a paid service, so they can let whoever they want in. you are equally entitled to decide that's a dealbreaker and avoid the game.

i'm sure someone will point out how people can say the same thing about the ryslig mods running something their friend can play in but to my knowledge the ryslig mods were participating in the abuse and using their power to issue strikes and warnings to victims, which isn't happening here, but i still wouldn't expect them to act on anything that comes from wankgate.

the mod team isn't a corporation that has to make nice with their stakeholders. they're a bunch of random assholes on the internet looking to have a good time and "public" only means anyone can join the game. it does not mean i get to come in and tell them how to run their game because i don't like what they're doing. i get to leave and find something i gel with better.

Re: JIGOKU-CHO

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
did gonsai have a personal responsibility not to lie to people answer the fucking question you tremendously vile victim-blaming asshead

you are equally entitled to decide that's a dealbreaker and avoid the game.

how can you do this if you don't know gonsai is a mod

+1

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
also fucking bizarre that ayrt is so hung up on "paid obligations" or whatever, theyre really telling on themselves

i dont pay my friends to hang out with me, but i would still consider lying to them an unethical thing to do. i dont sign the paycheques for the barista at my favourite coffee place, that doesnt entitle me to treat them like shit

da

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
"no, because if the mods are their friends they are fully within their rights to mod a game that they allow their friend to play in even if their friend has a shit reputation."

ok

now try again and this time try to make your answer relevant to the situation at hand instead of dipping it in sugar

do you think gsai should step down as a mod after deliberately lying about the power they have in that game to conceal their involvement due to their shit reputation?

do you think the mods should apologize for allowing their players to come into repeated contact with an individual known for stalking and harassing people without their knowledge, some of whom specifically expressed a wish to avoid them via their opt-out?

Re: JIGOKU-CHO

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt didn't ask if gsai should be allowed into the game

da

(Anonymous) 2022-09-03 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
tbh this is really accurate. the writing has been on the wall ever since anons started getting hyperdefensive on rpa to literally any crit at all

when i heard gsai was in the game it was like "oh. makes sense"