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An absolutely disgusting person both in and out of roleplay. He's just as bad as Ken, if not much, much worse.

fucking bullshit. ken spent years raping, molesting, and sexually coercing his relatives, step-siblings, and friends. and, on top of all that, ken continues to play out his rapist fantasies and bawwwws whenever anyone is uncomfortable with it. if anyone is worse than that, you had better be able to back that shit up.

http://wankgate.dreamwidth.org/14238.html?thread=41431198#cmt41431198

Funk is a rapist as well who uses what he did as a reason to try to martyr himself. Like Ken, he still roleplays rape threads, and bawwwws constantly about himself. 'Much worse' might be incorrect, but about on the same level? Yeah.

Also, not to excuse what Ken did because it was awful, but Ken was a child when he committed rape. Funk was an adult who blames what he did on 'ignorance' and 'thoughtlessness' (because you can ignorantly and thoughtlessly rape a person, apparently?). There is a vital difference there.

not whiteknighting him, but there's a frightening amount of people who think that if a woman isn't clawing and fighting her way out of bed, then it's not really rape. thoughtlessness and ignorance is no excuse, but it is why rape culture is more than just nefarious villains who twirl their mustaches in between attacks on random strangers.

I don't really get what you're saying. I quoted Funk himself directly- to share an uncomfortable detail, he threatened his girlfriend with violence if she did not comply with what he wanted, then raped her. That's hardly 'ignorant' and 'thoughtless', as he claims it was.

I understand that situations like the one you mentioned do exist, but what Funk did does not fall under that category, despite how he claims otherwise.

...to say i misread the situation would be an understatement. what a fucker.

Yeah. What he did was very, very deliberate, and the fact that he pretends that it wasn't tells you all you need to know about him.

whoa whoa whoa when did the "threaten with violence" detail come about. this is completely new to me and changes the whole situation.

It didn't 'come about', it's always been there. After the victim repeatedly told him 'no', he aimed a punch at her head and landed it right next to her ear, which terrified her from trying to resist any more. She did not have the means to escape- he's a very physically imposing guy irl. What you've written sounds like the usual false, painted up excuse Funk feeds his friends for pity, but he's deceived you too. This wasn't a misunderstanding and coercion. This was a victim repeatedly saying no and then being threatened to have the shit beaten out of her. He is utter scum.

welp.

that changes everything. now what to do with this information.

You sound (to an alarming degree) exactly like Funk himself. The 'twirling moustache' thing is something he has repeatedly used in the past. If you are, then fuck you, you spineless fucking coward.

If not, my apologies, but your metaphor is phrased exactly the same way he's phrased things in the past, and the thought of him commenting here and whiteknighting himself is just shudder-inducing. I really hope you're not him.

no, i'm somebody who just massively misread the situation. when i heard that he blamed it on ignorance and thoughtlessness, i assumed that the rape involved coercion and emotional manipulation more than violence, because boy i've met a lot of creepy motherfuckers who think that those methods are totally kosher.

Sorry for my suspicions, anon.

it's alright. tbh i'm kind of skeeved out that my comment matched his so well.

sorry, but as someone aware of the situation, it wasn't rape. it was gross, and he should definitely be ashamed of himself and face social consequences. sex via coercion is fucking low. but the other person was fully capable of informed consent as well as escape if they chose to do so. it's not rape and conflating it with rape dilutes the entire issue of sexual assault and its victims.

they were a victim, but not of rape.

disregard this, apparently the situation is not what I was lead to believe

can you explain the difference between sex via coercion and rape

rape implies an lack of or inability to consent. coercion implies there was consent. the fine difference between the two is usually decided on a case by case basis. one person's coercion may be a full removal of consent to another, especially depending on the victim's state of mind and whether or not they believe there is a way out.

i'd guess it would be the difference between abusing someone emotionally (like telling them they're worthless and only you care about them etc etc) and telling them you'll hurt them if they don't give sex.

one's awful and fucking douchebag behavior that people should be helped or educated to avoid or escape, but it's still not rape. the other is rape. this scenario sounds like the latter.

Sex via coercion IS a form of rape. Coating a pile of shit in gold and diamonds doesn't make it any less shit. Victims are victims, no matter how they became victims. If there is a way to escape a situation but the victim doesn't do so (whether via terror or intimidation or whatever), it's STILL RAPE. Calling it otherwise is victim-blaming.

with the rape culture in our society, we don't have the ability to, as a culture, categorize these things without lessening some crimes when they shouldn't be, and move into victim blaming territory.

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it's tangential to funk's behavior anyways

oh my fucking god this is rape apologizing at its finest. can i have whatever you're huffing? it must be really good to not put two and two together and know that sex through coercion and intimidation is a form of rape. have it said like this: the person was restrained through bodily effort, terrified by the person before the action happened because they were threatened and was being forced to have sex despite saying no again and again.

what are you on. if you're someone who is ~aware~ of this situation, you're part of a big reason why people are unwilling to step forward and have the police or law know about crimes like these. you and others nitpick the hell out of the situation and try to demote it to something ~lesser~ holy shit.

Holy shit, seriously. This.

It's Gonsai, just ignore him.

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