Curiously, I see more people clutching pearls and crying tears for a poor, poor man's pain than armchair activists.
In fact, most of the 'armchair activist' cries are by people without any clue whatsoever about the person they are so accusing. You twits are so self righteous that, apparently, it doesn't even enter your sheltered little minds that people can volunteer IRL. Or be personally involved, for example by being a rape victim. Or, you know, being one of the 60 people that dropped him and that he tried to get closer to, including IRL meetings.
i get what you're saying anon, but its the internet. i dont doubt that some of the people in this thread did the things you listed, but i'm equally sure at least half are hopping on the bandwagon.
and all of that aside, the chief point is that the victim asked to let it drop, outside of creating a safe haven for fellow survivors and rpers. thats why i got upset, because i've been in her shoes before. its not fun.
If some of the above anima are survivors (I'm sure not all are) then I do feel genuinely bad for them and understand getting angry about this, but there's also projecting your own feelings into a situation that's not about you and you're not the victim of and that's shitty. It's even MORE disrespectful when you talk over the victim's own request and continue to be self-congratulatory for fighting in her corner when she specifically asked it be dropped. and no, claiming we're all living with rape culture/societies isn't an excuse to speak over a victim's voice, what kind of support and/or solidarity is that supposed to show? Whose honor, exactly, are these peope trying to defend? It sure as fuck isn't the actual victim here.
That's not being supportive or helpful, it's just a platform to talk about defending victims and women while ignoring the actual victim in favor of making it all about themselves: people who have not been raped by this man.
Yeah, I mad at self-centred hypocrite "activists" who learn this ass-backwards "respect" and "support" for survivors from fucking tumblr.
i feel like you maybe got disconnected from what is actually going on in this discussion
this started out as people whining about how it was so hard for funk because seriously, what is he supposed to do besides what he's already been doing? and then people were like, hey, if he didn't want to be hated, maybe he shouldn't have fucking raped a girl. and then this person decided that saying "he shouldn't have raped her in the first place" meant people were being ridiculous and unfair.
in other words, this isn't actually about defending the victim at all. this started with someone crying about how unfair it is for funk.
if this person would shut the fuck up and not turn this into throwing a pity party for poor funk, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all. for real.
I can read, thank you. No, I'm not disconnected from what's going on. There is a point of view being aired that isn't saying it's so hard for Funk but is also questioning the way people who were not raped by him are freaking out.
There are more that just two views, this is far from black and white and my irritation at this brand of activism stands.
I didn't say that in any form. I'm not sorry for disagreeing with you, but I don't think I was or have been rude in my response or said anything to warrant that from you. But hey, this is WG so I am clearly expecting too much. Have fun with this, I'm out.
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(frozen comment) Re: FUNK
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)Curiously, I see more people clutching pearls and crying tears for a poor, poor man's pain than armchair activists.
In fact, most of the 'armchair activist' cries are by people without any clue whatsoever about the person they are so accusing. You twits are so self righteous that, apparently, it doesn't even enter your sheltered little minds that people can volunteer IRL. Or be personally involved, for example by being a rape victim. Or, you know, being one of the 60 people that dropped him and that he tried to get closer to, including IRL meetings.
(frozen comment) anon above but nayrt
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)and all of that aside, the chief point is that the victim asked to let it drop, outside of creating a safe haven for fellow survivors and rpers. thats why i got upset, because i've been in her shoes before. its not fun.
(frozen comment) +1
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)If some of the above anima are survivors (I'm sure not all are) then I do feel genuinely bad for them and understand getting angry about this, but there's also projecting your own feelings into a situation that's not about you and you're not the victim of and that's shitty. It's even MORE disrespectful when you talk over the victim's own request and continue to be self-congratulatory for fighting in her corner when she specifically asked it be dropped. and no, claiming we're all living with rape culture/societies isn't an excuse to speak over a victim's voice, what kind of support and/or solidarity is that supposed to show? Whose honor, exactly, are these peope trying to defend? It sure as fuck isn't the actual victim here.
That's not being supportive or helpful, it's just a platform to talk about defending victims and women while ignoring the actual victim in favor of making it all about themselves: people who have not been raped by this man.
Yeah, I mad at self-centred hypocrite "activists" who learn this ass-backwards "respect" and "support" for survivors from fucking tumblr.
(frozen comment) Re: +1
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)this started out as people whining about how it was so hard for funk because seriously, what is he supposed to do besides what he's already been doing? and then people were like, hey, if he didn't want to be hated, maybe he shouldn't have fucking raped a girl. and then this person decided that saying "he shouldn't have raped her in the first place" meant people were being ridiculous and unfair.
in other words, this isn't actually about defending the victim at all. this started with someone crying about how unfair it is for funk.
if this person would shut the fuck up and not turn this into throwing a pity party for poor funk, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all. for real.
(frozen comment) Re: +1
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)There are more that just two views, this is far from black and white and my irritation at this brand of activism stands.
(frozen comment) Re: +1
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)(frozen comment) Re: +1
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)(frozen comment) Re: +1
(Anonymous) 2013-04-14 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)