Re: GAME PET PEEVES

(Anonymous) 2013-04-18 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
i've been playing for long enough that i feel confident in my rping ability. if i want to improve a character i feel shaky about, i'll ask someone who knows that canon really well, or i'll do a canon review. i've never gotten helpful crit. i've never actually gotten crit, period. just a lot of bland, useless asspats.

so i don't bother with crit posts anymore. i'm a stable person who's never been involved in wank, and i make myself available for plot discussion. i do kind of expect that people will be able to talk to me about any potential issues like we're both adults... and i don't think that's unreasonable. if somebody doesn't want or need anonymous crit, then that's their choice.

Re: GAME PET PEEVES

(Anonymous) 2013-04-18 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
if somebody doesn't want or need anonymous crit, then that's their choice.

there's a difference between being confident and being arrogant. thinking you don't need crit puts you firmly in the second category. i'm confident with my characters too, but that doesn't mean i play them perfectly and couldn't improve at all. sure, it'd be nice if people wanted to speak to me face-to-face about things, but after having had bad experiences trying to give crit to people before, i can understand why people may be more comfortable staying anonymous.

da

(Anonymous) 2013-04-18 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
No, it doesn't. Crit is necessary in situations where your goal is to improve at what you're doing, or where reaching or sustaining a particular level of skill is necessary. Roleplay isn't one of those situations for a lot of people. It's a hobby, not an art form, an education, or a job, and as long as they're happy with their skill, that's good enough. If someone's incredibly bad, you can refuse to play with them or let them into your game, and you can attempt to open lines of communication, but they're not actually required to listen to you beyond respecting your wish that they leave you alone, and they certainly aren't required to give you a consequence-free forum for airing complaints.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-18 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
i do this as my after work hobby, too. that doesn't mean i want to be surrounded by people who are ooc and shitty writers. if a person doesn't care to stay in character or write decently, they need to stick to memes and museboxes and not pollute games with their subpar shit.

+1

(Anonymous) 2013-04-18 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Something being a hobby doesn't mean you can't care about how well you do at it. If people don't care about the quality of their RPing, games aren't for them. It's like the difference between playing basketball in the park with friends and playing on a team.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2013-04-18 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
And even your friends get pissed if you're a crap player--especially when you're on their team.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
I am a shitty sports player. I am not excluded from casual games with friends. Nobody tells me what the fuck I need to improve, because it's just for fucking fun.

Do you critique everybody you play Chess with?

da

(Anonymous) 2013-04-18 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
in addition to that, when you app into a game you're knowingly entering a sort of subculture of society where certain laws are understood and observed, in order to be a functioning part of this group. one of the things a roleplayer is expected to observe is to make themselves available for crit from their peers in a manner of their choosing that is accepted by general consensus. with obvious exceptions (citing the anon above with their friend receiving harassment), that universally accepted doorway is an anon-enabled hmd post.

even if prev. anon thinks they're "good enough" with their characters, unfortunately if they fail to meet the standards of their peers or the standards of the group, then they either need to improve or get out. it's how groups work, like clubs or teams or any kind of recreational organized activity. just because this one isn't government-sanctioned doesn't mean it's without its own set of regulations.

-0.5

(Anonymous) 2013-04-18 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
yes, rp is just a hobby, but it's also a group hobby, and bad rping can make the hobby less fun for the other people that you're playing with. think of it like sports: if you're just dribbling a basketball in your driveway with your bff, it doesn't matter how good you are, as long as you two are having fun. but if you join a team at a local rec center, then you're expected to show some skill and more importantly effort, or else you're going to drag the team down and make the game less fun for them. yeah, basketball is just a hobby and nobody's doing it professionally, but that doesn't mean you have any less of an impact on the team.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2013-04-20 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
It's as much an art form as someone who writes short stories in their free time or draws and doodles for a hobby. Do they have to improve dramatically to meet the whims of the official critics? No, absolutely not. But that doesn't mean they can't take critique and advise on improving what they're doing.

As an artist, even small and simple tips give me insight into how I can change around what I'm doing to fill my free time, which is doodling, and lets me be more satisfied with the end result of my spare time spent. If you think that you don't need critique, then the truth of it is that you're too emotionally unwilling to deal with someone telling you that you're not doing everything flawlessly and you're the sort of person that will take any critique meant to be helpful or even neutral advise as a personal attack, like a lot of the artists on deviantart who trace pictures do.