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considering the anon above you used male pronouns, not long

okay are you from tumblr because people are trying to make this roleplay wank related and here you are trying to kick it up again

anon, if you insist on using male pronouns for someone that came out as a transwoman (regardless of whether or not you believe them, that's an entirely moot point), it's going to cause transwank. It just is. Stop pretending it won't.

honest question: i thought it was considered okay to use pre-trans coming out pronouns when referring to that period of time in someone's life? so like, if you identified as a man until age twenty, but came out as a woman, is it not ok to say, "at age 12, he..." because at that time the person still identified as a man?

(honestly not trying to cause wank here, please correct me if wrong.)

Echoing this, and also because we're talking about harassment here, not their 5th birthday party. This person harassed others when they still presented themselves as a man, and that absolutely changes the tone of the discussion. She is still a creepy as fuck person, but people still interpret being harassed by a man vs by a woman differently.

that's... honestly a tricky question. I think it defends on personal comfort levels, but I definitely can't say for sure whether it's universally wrong or not. and we know kay isn't going to come in here and weigh in, so who knows

TBH, I've got a close family member who's a transguy, and I refer to him by male pronouns even if I'm referring to him pre-transition 99% of the time, unless it's a story that specifically relates to how he presented/was percieved back then (which is maybe relevant in this case, like other anon says) because that's who he is, who the holistic person-I'm-talking-about is to me-the-speaker-now. And even then, it feels weird to bring up 'she' or his old name.

Different trans people probably have different opinions on this and there's no hard and fast rule, but it's generally better to err on the side of using the pronouns a person IDs as, or at least explictly acknowledge the distinction so it's clear you're not trying to misgender who they are now.

agreed, it's usually a personal thing ime. i have noticed most trans people prefer you stick with their true (preferred, post-coming out) pronouns when discussing any point of their lives, but some either don't care or consider pre-coming out them as almost different people.

tl;dr ask if you can, but when in doubt, use the real/post-out pronoun or gender neutral "they" until you can ask otherwise or are told not to

trans person here; here's how it works

trans people are the gender they come out. this includes before they transition, before they come out, and before they knew they were trans. we've always been our real gender, just presented as something else.

so always use their current pronouns even when referring to them in the past (except in cases where asked to do otherwise, or if they're in stealth and doing so would out them.)

tbf, OP used her plurk handle and not her name, so ayrt might not be aware about how she identifies now.

and the anon below

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