trust me, if ken came back one day and said he was suddenly, i dunno barbie or whatever, no one would call him that. no one would call him a her any more than anyone's going to call kevin a her
saying we 'respect his pronouns' is really misleading, it implies he's changed them when as far as we know he hasn't
and kevin's been way, WAY more that just 'vaguely creepy and pushy about f/f'
minimizing his actions isn't helping your case any more than the tumblrinas shrieking about respecting his honor was
just tell him to leave. seriously. there is nothing left for him here
> why is kevin's gender less respectable than ken's
you're being disingenuous again. kevin's gender is not any more or less respectable than ken's, if ken tries pulling this transruse shit we'd be calling him out on it too. this isn't a point and you need to stop acting like it is
> what has kevin done that at all qualifies him to be labeled a monster
committed the cardinal sin of memes: not fucking off when being asked to. this, more than anything, is what has earned him the hatedom he has today. being a bad writer can be forgiven. being a neckbeard can be forgiven. being creepy can be forgiven. being whiny can be forgiven. being obtuse can be forgiven.
but needling people for play in the most manipulative ways possible, when they have politely asked you to leave them alone? that crosses a line. that's the territory of that master, selwyn-chan, that antman, and yes, kevin. that is a rank shit-tier. not s rank, which only the very worst get to, but pretty damn close. a rank wankers may not receive universal scorn and disgust, but they are still irredeemable as members of this community and need to leave.
a few a-rankers, like that kronk and (i think) that antman), realize(d) their shittiness eventually and got the hint. otherwise, like kevin, are so morally bankrupt they will resort to literally any means to get what they want out of this community. and in kevin's case, his strategy has been to pretend to be trans. as strategies go, it's about as scummy as you can get, but there's a certain low cunning to it
we don't have hitlers or stalins in this community. the standards by which we measure our monsters are different by necessity. no one in this community, no matter how horrible they are, can do a 100th of the evil that hitler did
the worst, the absolute worst of this community, are people who have preyed upon others irl. they are the s-tier wankers, the very bottom of the barrel. ken, funk, second and stormy are s-tiers.
then you have a-tiers, which is the rank kevin belongs to. he is not s-tier simply because we have no evidence of him doing anything awful irl. but his behavior in this community is reprehensible, as all a-rank wankers are, and if it's inaccurate to say that absolutely no one wants him around, then let's say that the ratio of people who want him to leave versus those who want him to stay is so disproportionate that any child could see it
kevin stays for two reasons: (a) because he wants something from this community (f/f), and (b) because he thinks he's entitled to it. that's it. those are literally the only reasons why he is still here
if you wanna whiteknight a piece of shit like him be my guest, but don't expect anyone to agree with you. dumbass
as someone who has known kevin for years (about 5-6) and been in games with him, he does this in games, too. there should be at least two capeandcowl hmds with people trying to explain to him what the problem is in a friendly, level-headed way and why they're uncomfortable with him playing characters a certain way and disrespecting people's wishes and he basically goes 'oh sorry ^^; i didn't know!' and then does it again and again and again.
then he apps to other games where people are kind and tell him what's wrong and try to be understanding because hey, people don't always catch social cues! and then eventually people get pissed because he ignores it.
but he's been told for years. he's been told again and again and again, sometimes by the same people. maybe he has some sort of learning disability if he genuinely forgets and doesn't get it, but it's not dwrp's job to teach him hot to act in a socially acceptable way within our group.
ken is ftm. referring to ken as male is respecting his chosen pronouns. so this person. and it was a big deal to respect ken's pronouns no matter how bad they were!!! which is why this whole thing has just sorta baffled me. stayed out cause I don't give a shit about dragon8writer, but it has been strange to see that a literal child molester is more respected than a creepster rper.
and also why people think if they don't bang in the trans thing, kevin/kay will some how get away. Ken's pronouns are respected and everyone know to stay the fuck away from them.
that's because ken is an actual trans person and kevin is a fucking sociopathic demented fucktard that is trying to escape his consequences of being a creepy fuck by hiding behind the transflag. i would respect his decision to be trans if he actually were, but he's using trans as an excuse to continue creeping and to get an in with lesbians and people that aren't comfortable smutting/playing with men by playing trans-lesbian.
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wankgate2015-03-23 07:32 pm
Re: DRAGONWRITER8
(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)saying we 'respect his pronouns' is really misleading, it implies he's changed them when as far as we know he hasn't
and kevin's been way, WAY more that just 'vaguely creepy and pushy about f/f'
minimizing his actions isn't helping your case any more than the tumblrinas shrieking about respecting his honor was
just tell him to leave. seriously. there is nothing left for him here
Re: DRAGONWRITER8
(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)what has kevin done that at all qualifies him to be labeled a monster
why is kevin's gender less respectable than ken's? is it literally just the fact that ken realized he was trans before the DWRP scene?
Re: DRAGONWRITER8
(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)you're being disingenuous again. kevin's gender is not any more or less respectable than ken's, if ken tries pulling this transruse shit we'd be calling him out on it too. this isn't a point and you need to stop acting like it is
> what has kevin done that at all qualifies him to be labeled a monster
committed the cardinal sin of memes: not fucking off when being asked to. this, more than anything, is what has earned him the hatedom he has today. being a bad writer can be forgiven. being a neckbeard can be forgiven. being creepy can be forgiven. being whiny can be forgiven. being obtuse can be forgiven.
but needling people for play in the most manipulative ways possible, when they have politely asked you to leave them alone? that crosses a line. that's the territory of that master, selwyn-chan, that antman, and yes, kevin. that is a rank shit-tier. not s rank, which only the very worst get to, but pretty damn close. a rank wankers may not receive universal scorn and disgust, but they are still irredeemable as members of this community and need to leave.
a few a-rankers, like that kronk and (i think) that antman), realize(d) their shittiness eventually and got the hint. otherwise, like kevin, are so morally bankrupt they will resort to literally any means to get what they want out of this community. and in kevin's case, his strategy has been to pretend to be trans. as strategies go, it's about as scummy as you can get, but there's a certain low cunning to it
Re: DRAGONWRITER8
(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)it makes him shitty, gross, manipulative, and creepy, but it doesn't make him a monster.
it sure as shit doesn't qualify for "MAYBE NOT AS BAD AS HITLER, HEH, BUT ONE OF THE WORST OF THE COMMUNITY..."
especially not when we've had literal fucking rapists ousted
you hyperbolic, kneejerking, baby
Re: DRAGONWRITER8
(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)we don't have hitlers or stalins in this community. the standards by which we measure our monsters are different by necessity. no one in this community, no matter how horrible they are, can do a 100th of the evil that hitler did
the worst, the absolute worst of this community, are people who have preyed upon others irl. they are the s-tier wankers, the very bottom of the barrel. ken, funk, second and stormy are s-tiers.
then you have a-tiers, which is the rank kevin belongs to. he is not s-tier simply because we have no evidence of him doing anything awful irl. but his behavior in this community is reprehensible, as all a-rank wankers are, and if it's inaccurate to say that absolutely no one wants him around, then let's say that the ratio of people who want him to leave versus those who want him to stay is so disproportionate that any child could see it
kevin stays for two reasons: (a) because he wants something from this community (f/f), and (b) because he thinks he's entitled to it. that's it. those are literally the only reasons why he is still here
if you wanna whiteknight a piece of shit like him be my guest, but don't expect anyone to agree with you. dumbass
Re: DRAGONWRITER8
(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)Re: DRAGONWRITER8
(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)then he apps to other games where people are kind and tell him what's wrong and try to be understanding because hey, people don't always catch social cues! and then eventually people get pissed because he ignores it.
but he's been told for years. he's been told again and again and again, sometimes by the same people. maybe he has some sort of learning disability if he genuinely forgets and doesn't get it, but it's not dwrp's job to teach him hot to act in a socially acceptable way within our group.
da
(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)Re: da
(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)da
(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 05:00 am (UTC)(link)and also why people think if they don't bang in the trans thing, kevin/kay will some how get away. Ken's pronouns are respected and everyone know to stay the fuck away from them.
Re: da
(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 05:05 am (UTC)(link)which he is not.
+1
(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 05:08 am (UTC)(link)Re: da
(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 05:15 am (UTC)(link)Re: DRAGONWRITER8
(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 04:56 am (UTC)(link)