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Re: SLASH FANS

[(Anonymous)]

i agree for most parts but also i gotta ask:

doyou get as upset at male players who creep on every female character, esp if they're moe anime, and get upset when they can't play out their power man fuck fantasies?

or straight dudes who fetishise queer women in real life, not just in fanfiction? to the point where "lesbian porn" is always for straight dudes?

because if you don't, this is really just misogyny veiled with "this is TOTALLY about being woke and fighting homophobia!!" pearl-clutching about some of the most toothless fetishization, mostly done by younger girls and women and largely kept to select online circles

while straight men doing this shit is considered mainstream and pervades real life to the point where some men legitimately think girls kissing other girls is just foreplay for their male enjoyment

yeah, slash fans can be annoying and some of them even cross the real-life-fetishization boundary, or even do shit like creep on actors or harass show producers. some of them clearly think gay dudes are for their enjoyment. but it's not nearly as pervasive or accepted as men fetishizing queer women and if you only care about one of these - especially if it's the one that lets you hate on women while giving men a pass - then your "concern" is just lies and shit.

da, +1

[(Anonymous)]

i hate to use the "as a __" line, but for real, as a gay man, as dumb and annoying as slash and its fans can be, i have zero time in my day to be upset about women exploring sexuality in a way that feels safe for them, especially since straight men do a lot of the same shit on a much more pervasive scale to queer women.

let it go, op. it's not worth the anger. i used to go full in on the "YAOI IS HOMOPHOBIA" debate, but it really isn't worth it (and even that has changed a lot in japan, at least, with plenty of young gay men finding their identity through yaoi despite it technically not being "for" them, because it's more accessible than most geicomi).

da

[(Anonymous)]

So you're gearing up to snipe at the anon for things you don't yet know they do or not? Just so you can get your self-righteous rant on?

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

anon, be real with yourself, does *anyone* who is vocally in the "slash is homophobic!" crowd actually give a shit or say anything about how queer women are treated as fetish material by straight men significantly more widely?

it's a fair assumption.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

except the op specifically talked about it.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

ah yes a single cursory mention in a series of eight points. you got me, anon, they're definitely woke to the exploitation of queer folk by all straight people regardless of gender. i'll hang my head in shame for daring to think OP might be an idiot with more rage than sense.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

yes, only to dismiss it and scream hypocrisy, because people smashing fictional barbies together on the internet is totally the same as exploitive porn featuring actual humans.

Re: SLASH FANS

[(Anonymous)]

tl;dr

+1

[(Anonymous)]

the funniest thing is just how much m/m gets written by queer women

almost every single lesbian or bi rper i know rps m/m at least sometimes except the couple who don't play any male characters at all

i can believe that there's at least some women who dove into m/m because they're tired of all the straight dude bullshit that infects so much f/f (and m/f too for that matter)

i hate mainstream straight and lesbian porn for this very reason at least

+1 to your +1

[(Anonymous)]

same and tbh i also hate most mainstream gay porn. i'm not very attracted to dicks but more than that is even gay porn gets way too into some bullshit. why is every mainstream porn for both straight and gay men full of the same choking and incest fetishes?

Re: +1 to your +1

[(Anonymous)]

the incest shit is really getting overbearing. i don't mind incest in fandom stuff but everything on pornhub these days is stepfather this and stepbrother that.

Re: +1 to your +1

[(Anonymous)]

people are being conditioned into liking it through overexposure

however overexposure also means desensitization so it keeps getting more and more violent/extreme/taboo

+1

[(Anonymous)]

YKINMK and all that, but good god the sheer amount of armpit kink in mainstream gay porn is staggering.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

....I saw some pearl clutchers on twitter making fun of a gay artist for having *gasp* an armpit kink, but this little factlet actually explains a lot lol.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

...what exactly turns people on about armpits?

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

so is it like...licking the pit or fucking it or something? or just gratuitous armpit shots?

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

ummmmmm i'm gonna need to see your queer credentials sweaty

everyone knows any queer woman that doesn't embrace the f/f that men have so graciously written for them isn't REALLY a queer woman! what we write in fiction totally reflects what we want irl!!!!

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

i know you're trolling but this attitude that you aren't really into women if you get uncomfortable with the stuff straight dudes jerk it to kind of pisses me off

f/f by and for women is hot as fuck but most f/f porn for straight dudes leaves me cold

i can appreciate the women in it are sexy but there a framing to it that feels offputting to me

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it's usually pretty obvious that male-written f/f isn't for us to enjoy. It's for men to enjoy. You can see it in how the women usually act like mindless sex bots and they do things that would never, ever get a lesbian off (like shoving long nails into the vag or sucking off a plastic dick).

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

where do you get these demographics from? i constantly hear fujos parroting this and saying "oh sure, all the lesbians i know LOVE writing about sweaty manfucking!" but it all sounds like horseshit to me, or you're counting girls that think scarlet johanson is hot and that makes them queer.

da

[(Anonymous)]

I knew a married lesbian who only cared about/played out m/m, so yeah I can believe it. I don't understand it, but I can believe it.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

oh god you more or less said what i said while trolling except you actually meant it

begone, dumbass

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

i'm seriously questioning whether you even play on this site if you haven't ever noticed this happening

ITT: ANONS REFUSING TO POST PROOF YET STILL IMPLYING YOU'RE AN IDIOT

[(Anonymous)]

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

okei