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so... chick flicks

yeah they suck and we deserve better content, because "meh it's a chick flick" is a big excuse going around that produces all the shit that it does... but saying they're 1%, anon? seriously?

unless you aren't talking about fiction in general and you meant in action/fantasy/scifi canons.

It genuinely pisses me off that so many people have internalized misogyny enough to forget about chick flicks. Most chick flicks pass the bechdel test without trying. Yes, they're largely ignored by mainstream film press, but that's because mainstream film critics are largely men who ignore chick flicks because they're geared towards women.

Dismissing the entire genre as objectively bad because the film canon has ignored them is perpetuating something damaging.

chick flicks aren't taken seriously because 90% of them suck. i saw this argument in rpa already so please don't bring it over here. is media for women looked down upon? yes, absolutely, but there are also genuine reasons to hate on shit like mamma mia and 50 shades. op is an idiot for going to the other extreme and pretending they don't exist, but let's not bring ~critics and film canon~ into this

also the bechdel test is garbage. two women talking about shoes and make-up for three minutes in a 90 minutes film about men pass it.

I don't go to rpa so I'm not sure what's gone on there, but I'm sorry that chick flicks have harmed you and your life. The Joy Luck Club is unironically my favorite movie and First Wives' Club is what made me question Disneyesque happy endings in the first place. I'd actually deleted that from my last comment before posting because I didn't want to be immediately dismissed for providing no references past the Sandra Bullock era of films.

Agreed about the bechdel test being garbage, but I was under the impression that we were arguing the same point.

idk how you thought we were arguing the same point when my second sentence literally starts with "yes they suck"

chick flicks haven't hurt me. i'm just establishing facts. there are some nice ones for sure, but let's not act like the genre didn't earn the reputation it has. for each good one there are fifteen that suck.

what is going on rpa is that there is an anon (maybe more idk) that thinks people hate twilight and 50 shades because they are for women and about women exploring their sexuality, and not because they deserve it simply on the grounds that they are garbage

"for each good one there are fifteen that suck."

Isn't that just movies in general?

yeah really. that also describes horror movies, action movies, slasher films, animated kids movies, superhero movies, comedies...ragging on chick flicks just because there's a lot of crap you need to sift through in order to find a gem is peak sexism.

Right? There are people that regularly have fights right here about the merits of trashy genres. It's easy to dismiss every genre by the way it looks as a whole. Kids movies are idiotic fartfests, horror movies are just soulless shock schlock, action movies are nothing but eye candy and setpieces for explosions, comedies are the actual lowest common denominator... Why should stuff for women be where we draw the line?

yes but just like with comedies and romcoms in general, a bad chick flick is gonna annoy you even more because if the characters and/or the jokes suck, you don't have anything left. their badness and boredom hits you harder. romcoms aren't taken seriously either, and they aren't just for women. action movies may have bad plots or boring characters but you may at least get some entertainment from the action itself.

Mrr. The Bechdel test is *supposed* to be garbage. The point is that it's a pitiably low bar and most media fails it.

>Mrr.

are murry-purry furries allowed on wankgate?

mrr. good women are supposed to not even look or think of the icky boys or they're soiled, i see.

that's a unique interpretation of the text

say what you will about fifty shades, but keep mamma mia's name out of your mouth

i do mean fiction in general, especially action/fantasy/scifi since they're the type of fiction that i like to consume

not saying that chick flicks are bad, but they don't really appeal to the sense of action and romance that i want and it's kind of dumb to say that "chick flicks are what you're looking for anon" as if i've never watched one

they don't appeal to me at all tbh

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