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Mine! I once mentioned Dean Winchester smoking in a top level and had half a dozen people angrily tell me he would never do that.

Smoking in general seems like a huge taboo to mention unless you're playing, like, John Constantine, chainsmoker extraordinaire. Headcanoning it is totally unacceptable despite the fact I know tons of social/closet smokers irl.

this is weird to me... like i dont know supernatural so not that case specifically but there are plenty of characters who smoke in media and i doubt anyone in dwrp is going to be "influenced" into the habit like mad moms would say by a character smoking.

plenty of the characters i play are from more olden-timey settings (think medieval or fantasy settings) where smoking would almost definitely be the norm and I never think twice about a character smoking unless the canon specifically states that they wouldn't or hate smoking or whatever (could be the case with dean, who knows)

i definitely would never put a smoking headcanon in the same tier as "chemical castration" wtf lmao

I am not going to argue whether or not Dean would smoke - I haven't played him in years and I stopped following SPN around season 7, so it could be that he has made some condemning statement on the habit since then. But at the time it felt a lot like being cornered by a gang of angry moms who take DARE way too seriously.

Which, honestly? It could be played in a fun way, Dean loves MILFs and that is undisputed canon. But it would require people to not use their characters as fun-killing mouthpieces for health and justice.

this is a huge pet peeve of mine. I've been lectured about it even while playing a character who smokes so frequently in canon that it's become one of his signature visuals. characters that I'm fairly sure wouldn't give a shit IC suddenly turn around and accuse him of wanting to kill himself/hurting other people with second hand smoke, even when they have no problem with other characters doing things like actually murdering people or being criminals.

this has happened multiple times and in one case I dropped all the cr with the other character because they literally would not stop doing it. some people in this hobby are really, really weird about it.

seriously. they need to smoke a cig and calm down tbh.

I'm just not sure what those other people are hoping to get out of the thread when they go this route. Smokers already know smoking is bad, and your character getting preachy isn't going to be the sudden revelation that frees mine from their bad habits. And I, the player, am not a smoker, so what's the point?

At best my character will bow out of the thread to go somewhere else; at worst they will tell yours to fuck off and mind their own business. Either way, it seems like a dead end for CR.

reminds me of people irl who walk close enough to smoke designated areas (outside you know, like with a smoke-out for butts and a sign for smoking) to wheeze and hack and cough. like what is the purpose dude.

that sounds exhausting

yeah the hypocrisy is what gets to me, especially in panfandom games where a character might encounter villains/criminals/murderers or other people who do bad things and don't care, but the lectures are always about.. smoking and binge drinking???

if anyone does it to me these days I just drop the thread immediately and avoid them for tags in the future. it's so boring.

It reminds me of this tumblr discord rp my friend is in with someone who shakes and cries if Weed is mentioned but not heroin, alcohol, or other addictions. I wonder if they'd be upset by the smoking too...

Not an excuse, because it's still just bad writing and OOC, but it goes back to watching an action hero get stabbed 27 times and not flinching, but wincing when they walk on broken glass barefoot. The player cannot imagine interacting with violent murderers in that capacity, as viewers have no 'that time I got violently stabbed over and over' tab in their memories to reference, but they are familiar with people who smoke and drink and have lectures ready, just as they're familiar with stepping on pointy things.

true but the character might have experience with villains or whatever. it's just a mark of a bad writer who can't resist the urge to cross the ic/ooc line.

i'd read that visual novel tbh

but they still don't have to bring it up every time? "I know people who smoke/drink/do heroin" Ok? And? Does your character also or are you just mouth piecing them?

(general Yous here, not anon im replying to)

they're probably rather on the large side

it's one thing to tell off a smoking character if they're being rude about it (like smoking indoors), or a brief 'can't you wait/do it elsewhere?' but the full on lecturing is annoying and often feel like an ic/ooc blur.

I wonder if the same players would dogpile Gandalf for smoking the good herb.

not surprised to hear this. americans gets triggered by cigarettes big time. mind you, i'm not trying to defend tabacco - it's awful and i'm glad a country somehow managed a campaign that achieved something for a change! but idk what that campaign *also* did that makes americans fucking lose it when it comes to cigarettes, fictional or not.

I think characters smoking is sexy lmao so I hate when it gets dogpiled on.

And before anyone asks: no smoking IRL isn't sexy but in art/writing it is.

American here btw. It's definitely a prevalent thing to be like NO SMOKING IS BAD!!!!! but It's like the same as any other fictional thing in rp that wouldn't be good IRL so I have no idea why people soapbox so hard.

americans make everything into a bizarre moral issue due to the culture having puritanical christian roots. anything unhealthy is considered to be evil and people by extension are evil for having unhealthy habits

when was this? most of my muselist smokes (historical bent to what media i enjoy) and I’ve never had ic or ooc problems w it

Makes me glad to play from more obscure canons that my character who smoke can light up and no one thinks anything about it.

Tbh makes me want someone to yell at my high fantasy character for smoking and having them be like ?? What's cancer?? So the soapbox player has to Google things.

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