Re: Megan

(Anonymous) 2022-04-11 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
that player was using yennefer as her pb with the same icons which, when there's a yennefer already in the game, might get confusing when the player wasn't planning to play it off as the characters having the same face?

when they did change the pb, it was their castmate that threw a fit over something something racism white girl, because that's clearly what the issue was.

Re: Megan

(Anonymous) 2022-04-11 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't even think Megan messaged the player, either. the mods have a no double ups rule and the player was asked to change pbs.

Re: Megan

(Anonymous) 2022-04-11 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
no double ups? so does that mean if someone plays a chris evans character, no one else can play a different chris evans character? not sure if i'm understanding, but it sounds stupid as hell. i could be wrong tho

Re: Megan

(Anonymous) 2022-04-11 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
It's more like if you're playing Captain America don't use Johnny Storm icons.

Re: Megan

(Anonymous) 2022-04-11 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
no. it means that it probably won't fly if someone tries to app a character that isn't captain america using captain america as a pb. that's what happened with the yennefer pb.

don't we prefer that people use less recognisable pbs in this hobby anyways? it's why we make fun of stupid shit like the jensen ackles trunks.

Re: Megan

(Anonymous) 2022-04-11 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
i don't care about pbs rly

kinda just wanna rp

(Anonymous) 2022-04-11 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
good for you

here's your star

(Anonymous) 2022-04-11 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
thanks

i'll cherish it and do my tags while the rest of you decide whose icons to pointlessly wank about this week

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i want to argue over milk

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drinking milk is good and also healthy for you

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Re: Megan

(Anonymous) 2022-04-11 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
um, no, we don't. if someone is using chris evans icons without the star spangled stuff and it's him in his civvies, then i don't see the problem. just like using dany icons for an oc or a pb that fits that look. actors play multiple roles because they fit multiple aesthetics. it shouldn't be surprising that someone might use a medieval/magical established character that might be well known to play a book character since it's not like there's a wealth of pbs for a wider assortment of historical magical figures. if you're using a pb, you're going to by default pick up an already canon character (likely). you shouldn't have to go dig up old vhs tapes to find some old forgotten pb just so some titinfant doesn't throw a shitfit that you don't want to play facetwins or that you're using their trademarked borrowed property.

Re: Megan

(Anonymous) 2022-04-12 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
i've seen someone use a major got character as a pb for their oc and the got/asoiaf cast did not appreciate the player trying to push the facetwin game on them, so it does have a history of being uncomfortable as fuck in games and there's a reason why most people don't want to deal with pb bullshit in their games these days.

and if there is an actual rule against it then you should follow those rules instead of throwing a bitchfit about racism.

Re: Megan

(Anonymous) 2022-04-12 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
....except is it a rule?? This is all I could find on the faq.

Can I use a PB?
For OCs or canons with limited or unavailable visuals (such as novels or comic books with difficult-to-find digital scans), PBs are fine. It's also acceptable for malleable protagonists with customizable appearances (such as Mass Effect), as we understand that not everyone has access to resources that allow screencapping of their characters (or the visuals are severely limited, such as first-person gameplay). Fanart and commissions are also sufficient alternatives, as well as some additional "special" icons (i.e. pets, animal forms, morphs, et cetera).

Non-humans are not required to be humanized for the setting, however, so we would prefer to leave their physical appearance intact. Additionally, we would rather players do not substitute a PB for a character with already available visuals. For example, we would allow use of a PB for younger/older versions of Harry Potter characters or make exceptions if you are intending to play strictly from the books than the movies, but we will discourage anyone from drastically altering a character's canon appearance by using a PB, especially if that character has plenty of screentime and visuals in their canon.


And the facetwin thing is easily mitigated enough by saying "I don't want to play facetwin mechanics." If the other person pushes that it's a different issue.

Re: Megan

(Anonymous) 2022-04-12 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I think the other part of this is that the character in question had a PB in the show version but didn't want to use them.

Re: Megan

(Anonymous) 2022-04-12 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
show and books don't always line up. the original part of this was a book cast. i've seen some people use different pbs for hp from books or got from books or a lot of show/movies that have book series with them to show they're different.

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Re: Megan

(Anonymous) 2022-04-12 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
i agree about the facetwin thing, but if the person is willing to not go that route and avoid the comparison/facetwin aspect, it shouldn't be an issue. it's the same to me as someone playing different roles from the same actor. i'm not a fan of the facetwin angle, so even with multiple chars from the same actor, i prefer to not play in to the 'i thought you were my boyfriend/brother/dad' game.

someone pushing into a cast from an oc or from any other cast is a bad move. having sameface doesn't make it better or worse. just still bad.

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(Anonymous) 2022-04-13 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
if they're playing from a book cast i don't see why they have to adhere to show casting either

also "steamrolling" is a bit dramatic for sharing a pb and not asking the other player first lol

Re: Megan

(Anonymous) 2022-04-14 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
i desperately need to remind everyone that the oc in question was a literal boat

Re: Megan

(Anonymous) 2022-04-12 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
No she didn't.

She did come into that player's plurk and tell them (not via private plurk) that they needed to ask Yennefer's player for permission to use her as a pb.

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(Anonymous) 2022-04-12 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
anon is shit-stirring, it was a tepid plurk exchange

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-04-12 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Ehhhhh. I think a dm from Yen's player would have been the most tactful. It does seem similar to them speaking for their castmate, though, like what happened with the John player.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-04-12 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, but it's not the fit that OP was trying to suggest.

In this situation Col also spoke for their castmate when the mods made a ruling.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2022-04-12 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah it was definitely an ESH moment

(Anonymous) 2022-04-12 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
what's a ESH

(Anonymous) 2022-04-12 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
reddit lingo

everyone sucks here