wankgate | 242: what kind of feet do you like?

so you're counting on people to replurk this sock account that won't automatically have it appear on people's timelines because no one will have it friended or followed right away

meaning you and your friends will have to replurk it first to get the ball rolling

and then you want people to keep replurking it with their names attached and no one can respond, just replurk these deets

and expect no backlash or retaliation whatsoever from replurking this in namespace

excellent plan

gsai's last stand

you're right gonsai would point out all the flaws in your epic plan to out yourselves

a know-it-all little shit like gonsai would love nothing more to do exactly that and you know it

i know i'm taking the bait on this, but you're reading a lot into my responses that aren't actually there. yes, there will be some risk in replurking a deets plurk - programmatically, that's how plurk functions. how else is a replurkable plurk supposed to get shared across timelines?

and regardless, what are our alternatives here?

contact the jgk mods anon or with a sock? no point, gsai is a mod or friends of the mods, they'll just ignore it

contact the jgk mods un-anon and sockless? no point, gsai is a mod or friends of the mods, they'll either ignore it or direct hate your way for speaking up

post an anonymous plurk with deets? no point, people still need to replurk it, thus revealing themselves to some degree in namespace, however tenuously

not everyone goes on wg. not everyone goes on rpa either. do you want deets to reach a wider network of people, or not? and for that matter, someone (anyone!!!) else is free to go ahead and make their own replurkable plurk and handle it how they want if my priorities (see: disabling replies to avoid a chaotic mess of spam and wank) don't align with theirs.

i just remember when they tried to anonplurk about the ryslig wank and people were way more angry and concerned about people trotting deets out into the light because all the links went back to wg/rpa.

and people unfriended each other on suspicion alone as to who the anons in the plurk were and it was generally negatively received by most people and made the victims feel worse because they were more concerned about people potentially crashing the game than actual racists and abusers.

so you're asking people to definitely attach their names to things associated with a far more popular game and gsai is a way more polarizing topic for people because people either despise them or they don't care enough to fall on the side of the opposition just to make it stop.

the lifeaftr one got spammed according to the other anon and the ryslig one is another great example of what happens when people think they're accomplishing anything trying to take wg things off wg. no one feels like you're doing a public service, you're automatically the shit stirrer threatening their canned fun at the yakuza game.

hence having replies disabled, to avoid unconstructive spam and wank. no one can perfectly control how people react to information, but if you can take steps to mitigate the worst outcomes, you should.

to spread a plurk around, it has to be replurked; i understand why people don't want to be even vaguely attached to it, but that's simply the cost of doing business, in so many words.

if nobody touches the deets plurk, then that will be that. people are as free to ignore it as they are free to make whatever assumptions they want about the situation.

apols if already suggested, but you could ask dwrpnews for a boost.

does dwrpnews regularly signal boost anoncomm wank?

i'm not sure on their policies, but maybe if it's a psa? i could have sworn i'd seen them replurk a psa of sorts, but maybe i'm misremembering. but maybe that's something that could be explored in a pp, if the plurk maker has the bandwidth.

The person who runs the account seems to be the sort of person who would dismiss a report just because it involves an anoncomm. It might be worth sending a PP for a vibe check before trying to do it openly.

oh, didn't know that about them! maybe the suggestion wouldn't work, then, sorry about that.

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i don't mind pping them first

but is "dwrpnews" the right account? the one i'm looking at hasn't been logged into since 2015

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i reached out to them but they weren't interested in either hosting deets or replurking them, they only do promos

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I like how you missed the obvious and arguably most effective option.

The whole point here is that people need to talk about it in namespace in the same way as deets with Jaime came out. Unless someone personally impacted speaks up about why it's a bad thing, yeah, it'll be written off as grudgewank and/or ignored.

If no one who has had actual bad experiences with Gsai is impacted by him secretly being a mod, then most will just write it off as "no one cares, wankgate". If someone who does makes a plurk like "Oh my god gsai is modding jigokucho??" to their plurklist first, it'll have a much better impact than "This is a PSA that a wanker may be modding this game I'm not in"

And if those people don't want to speak up, then that's really the only take away here.

i didn't miss it.

contact the jgk mods un-anon and sockless? no point, gsai is a mod or friends of the mods, they'll either ignore it or direct hate your way for speaking up

extrapolate that out to "talk about deets un-anon and sockless" in general, and you still get hit with the counterpoint of "nobody will do that for fear of getting a target on their back". you're not wholly wrong, people do need to talk about this openly in namespace. anon/socks can only do so much and aren't the most effective option. but don't conflate "don't want to" with "are unwilling to because of a reasonable fear of consequences".

i'm not in a position where i can talk openly in namespace and i certainly can't make anyone else talk openly, either. all i can do is what i'm doing now: reaching out to the mods via sock, preparing a sock plurk with deets.

shrugs. we don't need to keep going around the mulberry bush.

>but don't conflate "don't want to" with "are unwilling to because of a reasonable fear of consequences".
it's important to come forward and out abusers in order to prevent further victims, but it's always difficult because those who come forward are inevitably smeared and attacked, always. i don't blame the rpa anon who decided they just wanted to drop to get away from gsai and that was it one bit

i am sincerely confused as to what this 'target' is. namedropping here? obvious grudge, will backfire. harassment by mob? are the mods really clever enough to manage to direct harassments that doesn't either get shut down by pointing out all this, or getting more people associated with the wank and outed as enablers and people who need to be avoided? i get that confrontation of any sort sucks, but people act like 'going to the mods un-anon' as 'literal torture and death' and i just don't get how these mods or gsai have this power over them.

yeah i don't understand why people can't seem to grasp that the majority of people don't care about this because no one has come forward with any actual deets of the harassment and stalking that people are saying happened

if the claims people are making are true then SOMEONE needs to post something proving that and i bet you anything that will make people change their tune once there's some sort of evidence out there

jamie and luc and snow got outed because people posted pastebins and screencaps that were impossible to deny, so if there's stuff like that in this case then someone needs to post it too

yeah, it’s not like in this thread alone anons have been accusing other anons of “trying to get the game closed” because of this whole incident or anything

oh wait

anon just allow replies and those of us who have no reservations about this can make our voices heard. this will not work otherwise.

if you have no reservations about speaking up, consider making your own plurk

I don’t want to have to make my plurk public forever for any reason, but especially not for gonsai.

make a dummy account then ig?

"i have no reservations about making my voice heard about how wrong this is and we need to make as many people aware of it as possible unless it involves making my plurk public which is too inconvenient."

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