Re: PLURK PET PEEVES

(Anonymous) 2024-05-23 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I see your bait and acknowledge that you did your best, but it did get me wondering.

Is it likely that art schools are going to see a decline in students now that AI is encroaching on the art turf? Has AI rendered art schools an even bigger waste of time than they were before? Are art degrees even more useless in the real world than they were before?

Re: PLURK PET PEEVES

(Anonymous) 2024-05-23 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah. It's just another case of company execs falling for things they don't understand and within a few years it will fizzle out like Metaverse and NFTs.

Re: PLURK PET PEEVES

(Anonymous) 2024-05-23 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
exactly this. it's a marketing scheme that was deployed successfully, and just like ThE MEtAVeRsE and nfts, a lot of clueless people said "oh boy the future is now/we're going to make so much money"

but while some companies may make an attempt, AI won't meaningfully cut into creative work for long because 1) the output is bad, and in a way it's intended to be bad, 2) public opinion's going to get over the novelty and turn against it, and 3) you can't circumvent possible lawsuits stemming from it unless you can prove you only pulled from your own proprietary table, which would...require hiring and paying creatives to do more work than they would have if you hadn't bothered with ai

so yeah it's another case of guys with money rolling in stupid idea dogshit and running down the street hollering about how it's totally miracle mud

+1

(Anonymous) 2024-05-24 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
maybe i'm just curating my online experience well, but i feel like most people are already losing interest in AI art outside of a fun novelty or small personal projects (i.e. generating rp graphics.) for the most part, it looks really generic and samey, and high-profile fuckups like the willy wonka experience show how fallible it is for actual commercial use, to say nothing of the controversy that follows every time it comes up and the enormous potential for copyright problems. i think it'll die out within a year or two.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2024-05-24 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
thank you for bringing the willy wonka experience to my attention, that's high-quality content right there

Re: PLURK PET PEEVES

(Anonymous) 2024-05-23 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
this is getting pretty off topic but I have some reassuring anecdata that says when big companies are hiring AI people with no actual skills or training in art/illustration/animation/design, they end up fired pretty fast because AI isn't really good at taking feedback.

what I mean is, the "AIrtist" produces some images for an art director or client, and they say wow this is great but could you make her look happier? could you make our logo bigger? could you fix that tree in the background with a shadow that looks like a dick? etc. and the "AIrtist" has to go back to the AI tool which just churns out a totally different new image rather than a corrected version.

in addition, art jobs require a bunch of other skills that aren't output: working to deadline and taking criticism are two big ones that most degrees try to teach.

as far as I'm aware as someone whose life partner works for a well known company, AI is being utilised effectively as a drafting tool for stuff like backgrounds or anatomy by people who know how to see what's "wrong" and fix it. ai also churns out a lot of mediocre content that is good for narrowing down what a client wants without wasting everyone's time drawing a lot of stuff that will never be used. but both of those use cases still require real trained and skilled humans to do work, and it's only taken a couple of months for the industry to realise that.

I would say the people most likely to get something out of AI are non-professional non-artists who just want to slap some images on their thing without paying anyone - $1 ebook covers, spotify playlist graphics, rpers of all types.

Re: PLURK PET PEEVES

(Anonymous) 2024-05-23 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
this. ai is good for churning out concepts that actual artists can then refine or use as a basis, but it's really not any good at producing finished art unless all you're looking for is, like you said, $1 ebook covers level of quality.