Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
classic wg that this thread went:

"vermin live in everyone's buildings"

"no they don't"

"how dare you personally attack me people who have cockroaches"

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
classic wg is starting off with the assumption that any disagreement must be coming from the disgusting slob i am currently disparaging, because no one else could have a different lived experience

that would make me wrong!

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
you're doing it right now: please notice that my comment did not call you or anyone else a disgusting slob, think about why you made that connection, and talk to a professional about taking things too personally even when you know they don't apply to you

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
you are not posting in a vacuum hth

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
which changes nothing that i said

in case you actually need the reassurance: the presence of vermin is not your (or any tenant's) fault; it's the property manager's. it is illegal for them to leave vermin infestations untreated whether someone puts their flour in plastic containers or not; their legal responsibility is to provide tenants a place to live that doesn't pose health hazards. if you already know this, and you know the few people in this thread talking about slobs are wrong, there's no reason to take it personally

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
you're really married to that naivete, aren't you

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
keep fucking those cockroaches

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
keep living with mommy and daddy

-1

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
heteronormative

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
pretty sure no one said mice and rats live in everyone's buildings, but that they are especially common in old buildings in cities with high density of population (i wrote such a comment myself). and just because they appear does not mean they have to stay: people do call pest control teams or, in regions where vermin that appear in an appartment are the problem of management and not of the owner, they call maintenance.

the entire argument of this thread is that while being slovenly can help perpetuate or exacerbate a rodent problem, it's typically not going to create it. rodents get in because there are or they make holes in the floors or walls, and they are usually drawn to heat.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
da

another person that made a similar comment, and that's the thing. pest control comes in, but rodents breed at a really high rate, and it's doable to block holes and get rid of the ones they trap/poison, but they never get the whole nests. and over time, and depending on the building (apartment vs house) there's almost no way to wall everything off. things die in the walls all the time. roaches and mice/rats breed fast enough that they keep up with the measures to get rid of them unless the company does the most long term/high-payment measures to eradicate them. and frankly, most apartment managers or rental property managers want to save a buck, so they'd rather hire cheap and fast than expensive and long term. which is one of the main reasons that infestations keep occurring.

blocking off holes with metal mesh scrub pads and paper is a stopgap. glue traps only catch so much. even pesticides only work on a percentage and not the whole. pest control, particularly in cities, need to be a full time maintenance measure, and it never is.

plus, you have places like city dumps and junkyards that you can't in any way try to pest control, and those are usually some of the larger deposits of where the pests come from and branch out of.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
no particular horse in this race but this entire thread reminds me that growing up i lived by a large pond with a stormwater drain. the drain was on the neighbors property, but we'd see rats every now and then (winter was worse);because they didn't take care of it

+1

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
all it takes is one pair of rodents to start a infestation, as their pregnancies last for less then a month. they also reach sexual maturity in three months, so the mother rat is churning out waves of babies who then start churning out their babies and then all of a sudden you have a rat infestation, which is incredibly difficult to get rid of because all you need is one pregnant rat to escape extermination for them to bounce back.

it also doesn’t matter how clean you are (although i’m not saying that it’s ok to live like a pig) because once they settle in they will gnaw through your house for any weakness. they’ll also go through your car too.