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(frozen comment)

[(Anonymous)]

huh. funny how no one in this thread or the amat thread is defending their behavior, though. one stupid anon getting their ass in a tizzy about pronouns doesn't suddenly make kay a whiteknight magnet. and kay being a massive creeper doesn't suddenly make it okay to play identity police. kay's a creepy shit, you're a transphobic shit, you both lose at not being shitty.

(frozen comment) +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

THIS SO MUCH THIS.

KAy is still a creeper and a bad fucking person. Nobody is saying she isn't. We're just saying that nobody here has the right to say "NO YOUR IDENTITY IS WRONG."

(frozen comment) Re: +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

IT'S NOT HIS IDENTITY!! THAT'S THE POINT!!!

He's USING trans issues. He's an insult to real transgender people who really have to go through hell on a constant basis. And you're playing up to it.

Go back to Tumblr. You're too easily manipulated for DWRP.

(frozen comment) Re: +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

Prove it.

I am not defending her as a person, I think she's shitty. I'm not being manipulated in any fucking way, I'm being a decent human being which you are failing terribly at.

(frozen comment) Re: +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

You're not being a decent person. If you were a decent person, you wouldn't shit on real trans people who have to deal with assholes like Kevin all the time, treating being trans like a fucking game.

Being a decent person means having compassion for people who deserve it, not for shitting on people who deserve compassion by blindly believing a known liar and manipulator obviously up to their old tricks.

(frozen comment) Re: +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

if you were legitimately manipulated by someone as brainless as kay, you're just as stupid as she is.

(frozen comment) Re: +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

One does not have to be manipulated by someone to know that they're a manipulative douchebag. You just have to watch them work on people like you, who already have just accepted that "no, really, she's kay now! she said so!"

(frozen comment) Re: +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

... okay, so accepting her trans status, but still calling her a creepy shitstain and avoiding her, is being manipulated?

still not following your logic here, anon.

(frozen comment) Re: +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

you're believing a lie. that is being manipulated. sorry you can't understand such a basic concept. then again that's why manipulation works.

(frozen comment) Re: +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

And if you're wrong, will you apologize to her?

(frozen comment) Re: +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

No, because he brought it on himself. If he hadn't been such a lying shitstain from the get-go, people might have actually believed him.

Please don't try to turn this into a non-religious version of Pascal's Wager. It's such bullshit.

(frozen comment) Re: +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

if kevin turns over a new leaf and stops being a lying and manipulative shit stain, actually stops creeping on people, being disgustingly pushing, and uncomfortably oversharing and is still claiming to be a trans woman in a couple of years from now?

sure, i'd apologize then for not believing this one thing she said at a time when everything else that came out of her mouth was an excuse or a lie.

i'm not holding my breath for it, anon. if you're smart, neither will you.

(frozen comment) Re: +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

swear to god i don't understand why people are acting like a handful of anons not believing him even if he is trans is going to cause unbearable emotional devastation anyway, that's just part of what you prepare yourself for when you come out

and considering his rep he should have expected this at the very least

(frozen comment) nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, I'm sorry, how the fuck does this help Kay manipulate ANYONE? Nobody's saying "Oh, she's trans now, this means she must be a good person!" Every single comment in favor of not misgendering her is "Yes, we agree she is still a terrible fuck of a person, but that doesn't mean we need to shit on a trans person's identity."

How is believing her gender identity being manipulated? What the fuck does she get out of people believing she's trans? Seriously, what the fuck is your idea of her endgame?

In other words, how does believing her "shit on real trans people"? If anything, all you're doing is the opposite, by setting precedent that trans peoples' identities can be invalidated simply by OH THEY'VE LIED BEFORE. Do you not see what a terrible precedent that sets?

We lose nothing by believing her as long as we still recognize she's an awful person.

(frozen comment) Re: nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Please for fuck's sake will you go back to Tumblr?

(frozen comment) ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

So what you're saying is that you have no actual answer to my questions and as such have completely failed to look at this logically.

Good to know, thanks.

(frozen comment) Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

What I said was perfectly logical. What you have said is fucking stupid.

"Oh yes, call her a liar, but totally accept what she just claimed at face value!"

Oh yes, tell me again just how much more logical that is than "Kevin is a liar, therefore I am not going to believe ANYTHING he says, not even this."

(frozen comment) Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Please provide answers to my earlier questions, kthx:

"How is believing her gender identity being manipulated? What the fuck does she get out of people believing she's trans? Seriously, what the fuck is your idea of her endgame?

In other words, how does believing her "shit on real trans people"? If anything, all you're doing is the opposite, by setting precedent that trans peoples' identities can be invalidated simply by OH THEY'VE LIED BEFORE. Do you not see what a terrible precedent that sets?"

(frozen comment) da

[(Anonymous)]

simple. presenting this new identity as a woman named "kay" instead of a man named "kevin" so that when he wants to get his creey lesbian fetishization kicks on with new people in the future he can do it without triggering an immediate, ew, you're a cis guy fetishizing women reaction like he does now.

because he has finally gotten to the point almost no one will tag or play with him as things stand. new approach, same predatorial shtick.

(frozen comment) da

[(Anonymous)]

one of the complaints people have had against kevin for a long time now is his fetishization of lesbians and playing lesbians in an utterly gross, dehumanizing way. obviously by invoking the sacred cow of trans he can deflect a portion of what people have seen as skeevy about this behavior, a man playing women in disgusting, exploitative ways and being pushy toward others to get them to go along with it. and look. it sure is working. nobody wants to talk about what actually makes him a shitty human being anymore.

they're too busy trying to police what people call him and up in arms that some people require more than a known liar's manipulatively phrased and timed declaration to actually believe a word he says. when you have kevin's track record, the burden of proof is on you. sacred cows don't make you untouchable.

(frozen comment) dda

[(Anonymous)]

... if it's an attempt to deflect, don't you think that's failed, like, massively? since literally zero people have said she's not a creeper anymore just because she's a woman?

the topic has been dominated by transwank because when you purposefully misgender someone out of spite, it starts and fuels transwank. This is really basic, anon.

Also, again with the manipulator label, like, what has this base moron done that justifies calling them a manipulator? they are literally too stupid to do that.

(frozen comment) Re: dda

[(Anonymous)]

no, there's no way this could possibly set them up with future people as being seen less creepy initially and therefore allow them to get their disgusting fetish pushing on without being seen as threatening or gross as they would be as a cis guy.

throwing pity parties for yourself is manipulative. getting people to play with you by making them feel bad for you is manipulative. being called out on shit, promising to do better, and failing to follow through on your promises is manipulative.

you don't have to be a mastermind at it to still be manipulative.

(frozen comment) Re: +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

if she's using it to avoid being looked at as a creep

how come no one is saying she's not a creep?

your logic feels broken.

(frozen comment) Re: +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

if kevin is claiming to be a trans woman now instead of a cis man, this will absolutely enable him to be a more effective creeper in the future, anon. many women who would feel uncomfortable or threatened by the way a known cis man is fetishizing and playing lesbians would find it less initially creepy or threatening coming from a trans woman. it's a foot in the door he currently no longer has because he has burned all of his bridges.

new people who have no idea who this "kay" person is aren't going to know what they're walking into. this isn't rocket science. it's a new way to keep on keeping on because the old way is barely limping by on its last oxygen tank and he sees the writing on the wall.

(frozen comment) Re: +1 fucking million

[(Anonymous)]

YES, THANK YOU.

That's one big reason why Kevin is doing this. The other is, well, look at all the people defending him even while they admit hating him. And even demanding APOLOGIES for him!