(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
99% of people on WG don't even know what the actual definition of a pedophile is.

Hint: it doesn't involve 16 and 17 year olds.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
oh boy here comes pedant anon to argue the difference between pedophiles and ephebophiles

hint: there is no difference except in the minds of ephebophiles

da

(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
lemme ask you a question. how many pedophiles hang outside high schools to stalk for kids to fuck as opposed to ones that stick their dicks in the fences of elementary schools?

dda

(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
are you serious? when i was in high school we had a serious problem with gross college-aged men coming by to creep on and try to take advantage of freshmen girls

and they were creepy as fuck

so yes there are definitely predators who stalk high schools looking for vulnerable people to take advantage of

is it exactly the same as molesting an 8-year-old? no, but that doesn't make it not creepy, and it doesn't make it morally equivalent to two teenagers having sex with each other. it isn't.

Re: dda

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
so it's not the same thing but you are trying to make it sound like the same thing

words mean things anon, and we're in a word-based hobby so you in trouble

Re: dda

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
killing someone with a hatchet and killing them with poison are not the same thing, but they are both in the same category

stop being such a pedantic sperging fucknut

da

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
What are you even trying to argue with this.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
that as long as a teenager is sufficiently traumatized that it is fair grounds to creep on them

that is not even hyperbole, that was their actual argument before one of the mods mercifully nuked it into oblivion

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
jesus h. christ

(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
no, it's the anon who knows that words actually have meanings and people shouldn't sling them around without knowing the actual definitions.

hint: wanting people to use proper language = | = me being a pedophile OR an epheobophile.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
ok but ephebophiles are still creepy weirdos

+1

(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
no less creepy than pedos imo

+2

(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
and being really invested in the supposed difference just makes it seem like you want to justify adults having sex with high schoolers tbqh

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
actually, no, there's a big difference. an anon brought it up better than i ever can, but basically they both have different methods of preying upon their victims, victimology is different, you'd need different methods of ideintifying and catching them, etc etc.

yeah, they both fuck kids and they both suck, but they are different and they are different from a reason. pointing out them being different is not bad or wrong. being raped and having acid thrown on your face are different also, but both are horrible things. neither is better or worse. people pointing out the difference are not trying to excuse one or the other.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
serial killers and spree killers are different too, but they're both still killers

and the usual parlance is to call them simply 'killers' (or murderers or whatever)

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
"killer" is still in both names though... i guess we can call them both philes

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
'sick fucks' is the more commonly used and appropriate term

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
yes that works too

(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
the thing is, we aren't running profiles. we aren't trying to get into the mind of the criminal.

we're not feds trying to catch these people.

we're just regular people for the most part.

we really don't have any need for the semantic differences.

ephebophiles, hebephiles, ebephiles, etc. etc. are all still pedophiles

also while anecdotes don't mean a lot, I can tell you that in my experience that prosecutors and the FBI really don't actually make that distinction. the people working the case on my abuser didn't even know what the word ephebophile was.