lemme ask you a question. how many pedophiles hang outside high schools to stalk for kids to fuck as opposed to ones that stick their dicks in the fences of elementary schools?
are you serious? when i was in high school we had a serious problem with gross college-aged men coming by to creep on and try to take advantage of freshmen girls
and they were creepy as fuck
so yes there are definitely predators who stalk high schools looking for vulnerable people to take advantage of
is it exactly the same as molesting an 8-year-old? no, but that doesn't make it not creepy, and it doesn't make it morally equivalent to two teenagers having sex with each other. it isn't.
actually, no, there's a big difference. an anon brought it up better than i ever can, but basically they both have different methods of preying upon their victims, victimology is different, you'd need different methods of ideintifying and catching them, etc etc.
yeah, they both fuck kids and they both suck, but they are different and they are different from a reason. pointing out them being different is not bad or wrong. being raped and having acid thrown on your face are different also, but both are horrible things. neither is better or worse. people pointing out the difference are not trying to excuse one or the other.
the thing is, we aren't running profiles. we aren't trying to get into the mind of the criminal.
we're not feds trying to catch these people.
we're just regular people for the most part.
we really don't have any need for the semantic differences.
ephebophiles, hebephiles, ebephiles, etc. etc. are all still pedophiles
also while anecdotes don't mean a lot, I can tell you that in my experience that prosecutors and the FBI really don't actually make that distinction. the people working the case on my abuser didn't even know what the word ephebophile was.
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(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)Hint: it doesn't involve 16 and 17 year olds.
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(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)hint: there is no difference except in the minds of ephebophiles
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(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)dda
(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)and they were creepy as fuck
so yes there are definitely predators who stalk high schools looking for vulnerable people to take advantage of
is it exactly the same as molesting an 8-year-old? no, but that doesn't make it not creepy, and it doesn't make it morally equivalent to two teenagers having sex with each other. it isn't.
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(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)words mean things anon, and we're in a word-based hobby so you in trouble
Re: dda
stop being such a pedantic sperging fucknut
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(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 03:31 am (UTC)(link)Re: da
(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 03:33 am (UTC)(link)that is not even hyperbole, that was their actual argument before one of the mods mercifully nuked it into oblivion
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(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 03:40 am (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)hint: wanting people to use proper language = | = me being a pedophile OR an epheobophile.
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(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 12:12 am (UTC)(link)yeah, they both fuck kids and they both suck, but they are different and they are different from a reason. pointing out them being different is not bad or wrong. being raped and having acid thrown on your face are different also, but both are horrible things. neither is better or worse. people pointing out the difference are not trying to excuse one or the other.
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and the usual parlance is to call them simply 'killers' (or murderers or whatever)
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(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 12:20 am (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 12:23 am (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 12:27 am (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2015-03-28 12:31 am (UTC)(link)we're not feds trying to catch these people.
we're just regular people for the most part.
we really don't have any need for the semantic differences.
ephebophiles, hebephiles, ebephiles, etc. etc. are all still pedophiles
also while anecdotes don't mean a lot, I can tell you that in my experience that prosecutors and the FBI really don't actually make that distinction. the people working the case on my abuser didn't even know what the word ephebophile was.