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wankgate2016-04-03 08:01 pm
ryanongosling) wrote in wankgate2016-04-03 08:01 pm
Fucking THIS. Not that I plan to do anything but play on and ignore it, but nothing Pearl says or does w/r/t Gilgamesh has read quite right to me at all.
they can be done well in theory
but generally, it sucks for castmates, because being on the same page and developing together is normally one of the fun things about having castmates. (it also sucks for anyone who likes the character and was looking forward to their interactions in general.)
it sucks for any characters your crau had major cr with who now have a renne-style surprise castmate and the IC drama that comes with that.
it sucks for most game premises to have characters become used to hopping around universes and repeatedtly ending up in jamjars for some reason. especially if there's a clash in mood, mechanics etc, like a couple anons have mentioned.
not gonna touch the thing about powers, we all know that's a bad idea already.
most people don't crau because the character developed in a way that makes them easier or more interesting to play, they crau because they're still hype about their old threads and they refuse to move on and have new fun even though they're dealing with new people and a new setup. and we're all here for self indulgence, but this is a kind of indulgence that's too likely to kick other people in the teeth. there is, at best, a very thin margin where the crau is subtle enough to not mess up anyone else's fun, but not so subtle that there's no point bothering at all.
but generally, it sucks for castmates, because being on the same page and developing together is normally one of the fun things about having castmates. (it also sucks for anyone who likes the character and was looking forward to their interactions in general.)
it sucks for any characters your crau had major cr with who now have a renne-style surprise castmate and the IC drama that comes with that.
it sucks for most game premises to have characters become used to hopping around universes and repeatedtly ending up in jamjars for some reason. especially if there's a clash in mood, mechanics etc, like a couple anons have mentioned.
not gonna touch the thing about powers, we all know that's a bad idea already.
most people don't crau because the character developed in a way that makes them easier or more interesting to play, they crau because they're still hype about their old threads and they refuse to move on and have new fun even though they're dealing with new people and a new setup. and we're all here for self indulgence, but this is a kind of indulgence that's too likely to kick other people in the teeth. there is, at best, a very thin margin where the crau is subtle enough to not mess up anyone else's fun, but not so subtle that there's no point bothering at all.
She ships Pearl with Mayor Dewey. 0/10 would not fuck with.
Probably not very. The worst you could nail me on is "you don't even go here so why are you replying" because I love drivebys.
I make a point of never commenting unless it's something I would be willing to have my name attached to.
Not too fucked, but probably some side eying going on since it's a mod NPC account
I don't say anything wank-worthy on this comm though, I just comment on stuff like this
*le shrug*
I don't say anything wank-worthy on this comm though, I just comment on stuff like this
*le shrug*
these are the main reasons i just won't join a crau game. half the chars are just going to be recognizable and it's not due to any in-game actions for that specific game. i don't want to play against bob the builder who's actually been a pimp in another game and a test subject in another and is now bob the broken and defeated who whines about his old cr and what they used to do together and never builds anything and can we do it? no, because fuck this shit.
is this 100% what happens to craus? no, and i acknowledge that. but it happens enough that i just don't want to deal with it.
is this 100% what happens to craus? no, and i acknowledge that. but it happens enough that i just don't want to deal with it.
yeah, i don't think you understand what crau means. character relation alternate universe, as in, 'this char was from another game and they're taking all that shit and transplanting them into this new game'. that's what a crau game is, or a game that allows craus.
i'm bi myself and this has nothing to do about realistic interpretations of sexuality. but it's disingenuous to app into a game as a bi character and find loopholes against playing them bi because you're really only in it for m/m. as i said, no one's entitled to cr or smut, but look at it this way: if i app a male character into a game and can get smut at the drop of a hat, but my female character's smut threads are all handwaved, if i can even find smut cr for her, that's not really playing to the spirit of the game. i'm joining a sex game because i want to play out sex scenarios. if female characters are getting handwaved het cr, sure, they have 'cr', but it's not the cr they joined for. and it's a pain in the ass when you look at the fact that technically, your female char has a bunch of potential smut cr, but it's all handwaved because dick on dick is more fun to play than dick in vag.
that's sort of the pivotal point of this conversation. it's not even that the 'bi' guys won't give lip service to having female cr. it's that players of female characters aren't always as able to play out what they joined to play out. and, depending on the woman, maybe she's not open to sleeping with fifteen guys to try to find a player that's willing to actually play out smut with her, so she 'has' cr where she's having sex, but she's been greedy or a cockhop by having her char try to find someone that's actually willing to play out what they joined for.
it's a really shitty catch 22 and it only seems to apply to female characters. which is why there's always more male chars in sex games than female ones.
that's sort of the pivotal point of this conversation. it's not even that the 'bi' guys won't give lip service to having female cr. it's that players of female characters aren't always as able to play out what they joined to play out. and, depending on the woman, maybe she's not open to sleeping with fifteen guys to try to find a player that's willing to actually play out smut with her, so she 'has' cr where she's having sex, but she's been greedy or a cockhop by having her char try to find someone that's actually willing to play out what they joined for.
it's a really shitty catch 22 and it only seems to apply to female characters. which is why there's always more male chars in sex games than female ones.
as someone who has tried to play a female character in a sex game and dropped after a couple months because it just wasn't worth it, thank you.
app my guy to a sex game, have no problem getting smut or CR for him from both sides
app my girl to the same sex game, getting tags is like drawing blood from a stone
app my girl to the same sex game, getting tags is like drawing blood from a stone
aka That Joker
Soulbonder, try hard, harasses his castmates, and to top it off he's OOC as fuck.
Any one have any more deets?
Soulbonder, try hard, harasses his castmates, and to top it off he's OOC as fuck.
Any one have any more deets?
i heard he actually found out his castmates' addresses :/
i heard he got hit by three zebras and a monkey
i understand what it means, i just don't think it's a very viable concept
craus are not inevitable. you're saying you side eye them when people transplant from one game to another, but that is exactly what a crau is. it's when you take a char from, say, ryslig, and put them in thisavrou. that's a crau. that's the only thing a crau is. so saying that they're inevitable, but you side eye the specific behavior of them as if that's going too far... you're contradicting yourself.
i think you're maybe mixing up aus with craus?
i think you're maybe mixing up aus with craus?
patience, my padawan
all of dwrp is slowly grinding to a halt
all of dwrp is slowly grinding to a halt
i heard he'll never be as good as heath ledger
is kevin prentiss ever going to find a permanent inmate
i almost feel bad seeing them get shot down again
i almost feel bad seeing them get shot down again
when you play a character in a game, inevitably they are going to drift away from their original ic personality somewhat. how much varies depending on the character, the game they're in and how long they're played, but unless a character is played for like a month they're not going to be the same character coming out they were going in
the difference between aus and craus, imo, is right there in the prefix. aus are driven primarily by a difference of canon, while craus are driven by characterization differences acquired as a result of some sort of original cr. neither are specific to games, they can be played in psls too (and with craus, i'd argue that's the only really viable place to play them unless a lot of you cr castmates come with you to the new game and they're all doing the crau thing too).
i sideye it because it reeks of overinvestment, btw. the whole point of a game is to make new cr and have new experiences. if someone is so stuck on past cr that they have to import it, they're probably going to be hard to play with and be the type of player who insists on other people recognizing their foreign cr renne style. but that's just my $0.02.
the difference between aus and craus, imo, is right there in the prefix. aus are driven primarily by a difference of canon, while craus are driven by characterization differences acquired as a result of some sort of original cr. neither are specific to games, they can be played in psls too (and with craus, i'd argue that's the only really viable place to play them unless a lot of you cr castmates come with you to the new game and they're all doing the crau thing too).
i sideye it because it reeks of overinvestment, btw. the whole point of a game is to make new cr and have new experiences. if someone is so stuck on past cr that they have to import it, they're probably going to be hard to play with and be the type of player who insists on other people recognizing their foreign cr renne style. but that's just my $0.02.
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