wankgate | 161: because most of the people in this hobby are godawful writers

craus are not inevitable. you're saying you side eye them when people transplant from one game to another, but that is exactly what a crau is. it's when you take a char from, say, ryslig, and put them in thisavrou. that's a crau. that's the only thing a crau is. so saying that they're inevitable, but you side eye the specific behavior of them as if that's going too far... you're contradicting yourself.

i think you're maybe mixing up aus with craus?

when you play a character in a game, inevitably they are going to drift away from their original ic personality somewhat. how much varies depending on the character, the game they're in and how long they're played, but unless a character is played for like a month they're not going to be the same character coming out they were going in

the difference between aus and craus, imo, is right there in the prefix. aus are driven primarily by a difference of canon, while craus are driven by characterization differences acquired as a result of some sort of original cr. neither are specific to games, they can be played in psls too (and with craus, i'd argue that's the only really viable place to play them unless a lot of you cr castmates come with you to the new game and they're all doing the crau thing too).

i sideye it because it reeks of overinvestment, btw. the whole point of a game is to make new cr and have new experiences. if someone is so stuck on past cr that they have to import it, they're probably going to be hard to play with and be the type of player who insists on other people recognizing their foreign cr renne style. but that's just my $0.02.

except that's not at all the topic going on here and you're just jumping into a different pool and calling it the same. we are specifically talking about craus and why they're shit (or why they're not, depending on your side). craus in dwrp has a specific meaning, which is imported cr from one game to another. that's the discussion taking place here and you can't come in and say 'well, all games have crau if you take into consideration the fact that everyone's an au after a certain amount of time.'

no. we are discussing why games that allow craus are (or are not) shit. why craus in general are (or are not) shit, and what that means. that is in reference to people transplanting cr from one game to another. not affected characters changing in a game. no one cares about that. that's not what's being discussed.

you sound like the memezilla mod, "no, we only talk about what I say we talk about!" (good thing you don't have thread-freezing powers i guess)

i don't care whether a game lets craus in or not. i care about whether a person is overinvested enough to try to app a crau in the first place. i'll join a game that allows craus if that's the only problem, but i'll probably steer clear of a crau player themselves. game standards in general have been on the wane so it seems kind of pointless to me to judge a game when the real problem is the specific players. ocs used to be widely shunned as well for similar reasons and now multiple games allow them. we long since stopped judging them for it, so why get bent out of shape for what's basically the same situation?

dude, follow the thread back to the origin. you're jumping in with a view that has nothing to do with the original conversation, or how the thread's digressed. you're coming in to say 'no this thing means what i want it to mean, not what the actual community i'm in says it means' and then trying to blame me for pointing it out as some kind of buzzkill for how pompous you sound? no.

if a game allows craus, there is a pretty strong likelihood that people are going to app in (drumroll)... craus. there's a game out there that's only for craus. so you saying that you only care if people are invested enough to app in craus while you're in a game that allows them is just dumb. it's like crying over ocs while in a game that allows them. don't like them? don't be around them. first you're arguing what a crau is (psls totally count, guys, except no they don't in games that allow craus), now you're changing your argument. don't join discussions if you don't want to discuss what's going on.

and if you're sitting there trying to tell me that an oc and a crau is the same thing, you're just proving you have no clue what you're talking about and i'm done.

bitch i'm from flatland i do what i want

seriously though my only interest in jumping in here was to address craus themselves, the spiel above about craus in games was only to clarify my position on the matter for you since that's clearly what you're here for. a game that's only for craus is even less worth the bother of judging, imo, because everyone who goes into it knows what theyre getting into. as for games allowing crau apps (sigh), again, i won't avoid a game that allows craus if it is a good game in other respects. i will avoid the crau players themselves, though. i'd like to say games shouldn't allow craus but i just don't think that's feasible in a dwrp where even ocs can't be kept out of games.

you've obviously got some personal investment in this so... sorry for stepping on your toes, i guess? okay not really sorry, and yeah, ocs and craus are on the same scale when it comes to player vanity and flexibility in games. if i had my druthers they'd both be kept out en masse and sent packing back to ij from whence they came

i'm from flatland too and i still understood what the fuck they were talking about

flat has nothing to do with this. you're just a fucking moron is all

bitch parent up

bitch, they know exactly who they're talking to and you're the one fucking shit up and unable to just accept the fact you fucked up.

ironic coming from you

i think they're just frustrated because you came in talking shit that had nothing to do with anything else anyone was talking about, and then arguing like your contribution was valuable and worth listing to

this is the kind of shit we judge flatlanders for doing

lmao @ you thinking anyone else's contribution BUT mine is worth "listing to"

dude, you didn't even know the definition of crau and then proceeded to give us your opinion about it. and then stuck around to argue that opinion. that's a more embarrassing show of ass than a typo or what anyone else was saying, because at least they knew wtf the topic of conversation was.

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