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There's a plurk going around about the guy who runs Adagio Tea firing an LGBT employee.

I don't want to imply that it isn't a messy issue, but I agree with ayrt that it feels like there are bigger things to be angry about than an indie tea distributor. David's Tea is a much bigger tea retailer that's fucked over a lot more people, for example.

I shop at both places, what's up with David's?

Shitty labor conditions from what I remember. There was some press a few years ago about them scheduling employees for "on call" shifts, where they'd be forced to keep their schedules open for work but not actually be guaranteed the hours. Around that time, David's employees came out en masse to describe a poor working environment (even by retail standards). I haven't heard much about it recently, but reports always seem to come in waves anyway, like how so many pro-LGBT activists will happily have a meal at Chik-fil-a in 2018, completely forgetting about 2012.

We have short memories when it comes to outrage.

Thanks for the heads up anon. I only started hearing about David's Tea in the past few months so I was under the impression they were newer and had never heard about their shady past.

i know this is off-topic but for what it's worth, chik-fil-a learned from their shit and donated a whole bunch to gay rights groups after their big scandal. it just wasn't covered in the press cause making up for your mistakes doesn't sell papers. chik-fil-a is karmically even.

I'm gonna need a sauce on this because I think a highly religious company suddenly donating a "whole bunch to gay rights groups" would definitely "sell papers." people expect shitty things from extremely conservative organizations and their owners. what they don't expect is... well, going against expectations, so your logic is extremely flawed.

tl;dr: sauce pls

I'm going to go ahead and go against what the other anon said. Chick-fil-A is still donating to anti-LGBTQ organizations as recent as last year. Here's the sauce with IRS documents of donations included as one of the links: https://thinkprogress.org/chick-fil-a-still-anti-gay-970f079bf85/

All they did was scale it back.

Groups in question: Salvation Army, Paul Anderson Youth Home (one of the organizations that claims being LGBTQ is due to sexual abuse), and Fellowship of Christian Athletes which, if I remember correctly from my high school days, does not allow homosexual athletes to be part of their organization and also if you're not "pure and chaste".

So no, Chick-fil-A is still trash.

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After the Pulse shooting, Chikfila called people in to work that Sunday so they could donate food and tea to those waiting to give blood, taking blood, etc. Somehow about 24 hours later this fact was circulating with plenty of pictures and captions about how Chikfila did this and it wasn't receiving media attention because Chikfila doing things out of the goodness of their hearts for gay people didn't interest the news networks. Because apparently feeding people on your usual off day is somehow more important than one of the biggest shootings in modern day history. I never saw any of these pictures or this information WITHOUT it being attached that, oh, look at how selfless they are, the media doesn't care about this because it doesn't fit THEIR agenda.

I am convinced they did it as a stunt to put these pictures out there and get some "too good for this sinful world" cred from Christians tbh

are you for real

well, i was, but i went digging for sources and found a bunch that contradict what i saw awhile back, and couldn't find the source i remember seeing. so apparently i was wrong

Is that not how on-call shifts work though?? That's what they were like when I worked retail 10 years ago, I thought that was normal.

the entire idea of on-call shifts in retail is a recent invention. It's acknowledged as damaging, so much that it's illegal in some states now.

Just to pull from the top of the google results, New York banned the practice last year: https://blogs.orrick.com/employment/2017/06/05/attention-nyc-retail-employers-on-call-scheduling-to-end/

it is how on-call works, but it's not reasonable for retail. the closest on-call should get to retail is having a programmer who works with the POS system available for tech support or something, there's no reason to have on-call retail shifts.

Sure, but if that's being cited as why David's is shady, you'd have to call like every retail company shady.

Except it's not every retail company. It's only the shady ones who do it.

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(Anonymous) - 2018-04-05 02:43 (UTC) - Expand

I can sort of understand it because Adagio has always had a strong connection to fandom through the fandom blends and so it feels more personal and disappointing.

you know people can be angry at more than one thing at a time, right, can you not do this?

Can they though?

if they aren't seven, i guess

That's a lot to ask of some of the people in this community.

okei

why do you bitches always bring this up?

sure, be angry at both, but realize which one has fucked over more people and is probably the bigger deal

they bring it up because other people inevitably bring up other issues in an attempt to shame people for being bothered by the main topic at all.

"why are you mad about that when THIS IS HAPPENING?! you should be talking about THIS not that!" as if we're incapable of being concerned about both or talking about both.

it's a disingenuous argument.

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