![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
![[community profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/community.png){kind=small}
it's so easily avoidable
lmao, no. your mods sucked but they're not to blame here. blame your comrades who feel the need to stick their dicks in everything shiny and drop threads, abandon cr, clique up and ghost on plans then eventually bail. el nysa playerbase was and is fucking trash, go review the past threads if you don't believe me. it was a bunch of bullies and mean girls and insufferable keysmashers who never actually threaded anything, just talked the talk on plurk and ignore everyone outside their own circles. the same crowd that always shits in their sandbox then moves on. this absolutely didn't happen by accident and this attitude of "WAH BUT THE MODS THO" is exactly why people DON'T want to mod, you point fingers at them when it should be pointed at yourselves.
YOU did this to yourselves. bandwagon culture and all the shitty rpers who follow it are at fault, bad modding was just icing on the cake.
lmao, no. your mods sucked but they're not to blame here. blame your comrades who feel the need to stick their dicks in everything shiny and drop threads, abandon cr, clique up and ghost on plans then eventually bail. el nysa playerbase was and is fucking trash, go review the past threads if you don't believe me. it was a bunch of bullies and mean girls and insufferable keysmashers who never actually threaded anything, just talked the talk on plurk and ignore everyone outside their own circles. the same crowd that always shits in their sandbox then moves on. this absolutely didn't happen by accident and this attitude of "WAH BUT THE MODS THO" is exactly why people DON'T want to mod, you point fingers at them when it should be pointed at yourselves.
YOU did this to yourselves. bandwagon culture and all the shitty rpers who follow it are at fault, bad modding was just icing on the cake.
you say it's "easily avoidable" and yet it isn't. because it keeps happening with every fad game and el nysa was the biggest fad game at one point, hitting test drive overflows and having capped apps fill up in minutes if not less.
the mods tried what they could, from what i'm seeing. they capped apps, they tried metaplot, players complained it was "too much". now they are doing the opposite, players are still complaining. there comes a point when mods are just going to throw their hands up and not bother anymore. this is supposed to be a fun hobby and the moment it starts feeling like work, the quality is going to start tanking.
even riverview had its hayday and is now in steady decline because after being there for a year, you've done everything there you could do. the quiet place was really popular for a hot minute and then look at what happened. what was that other game a while back that had the same bloat problem? began with an ex and i can't for the life of me remember how to spell it. point is, this is a constant sort of cycle in dwrp. and even in ljrp. i remember when amat was the big fad game despite all the wank surrounding it.
it's been shown time and again, games that bloat fast and hard, either explode (in a bad way) or they slowly whither and die. mods can only do so much when players are fickle and flakey or demanding and unsatisfied no matter what you do.
the mods tried what they could, from what i'm seeing. they capped apps, they tried metaplot, players complained it was "too much". now they are doing the opposite, players are still complaining. there comes a point when mods are just going to throw their hands up and not bother anymore. this is supposed to be a fun hobby and the moment it starts feeling like work, the quality is going to start tanking.
even riverview had its hayday and is now in steady decline because after being there for a year, you've done everything there you could do. the quiet place was really popular for a hot minute and then look at what happened. what was that other game a while back that had the same bloat problem? began with an ex and i can't for the life of me remember how to spell it. point is, this is a constant sort of cycle in dwrp. and even in ljrp. i remember when amat was the big fad game despite all the wank surrounding it.
it's been shown time and again, games that bloat fast and hard, either explode (in a bad way) or they slowly whither and die. mods can only do so much when players are fickle and flakey or demanding and unsatisfied no matter what you do.
You sound mad.
Maybe the Nysa players are more to blame in this case, but overall, this is a systemic mod issue for allowing their games to get out of control. If it was only Nysa, you might have a fragment of a point, but the fact that it keeps happening to basically every game means it's a management problem, not a participant one.
Maybe the Nysa players are more to blame in this case, but overall, this is a systemic mod issue for allowing their games to get out of control. If it was only Nysa, you might have a fragment of a point, but the fact that it keeps happening to basically every game means it's a management problem, not a participant one.
then. prevent. the bloat.
if app caps fill up, too bad. keep the game small and manageable, or of course this is going to happen, hello?? games don't have to last forever, but having a finite plot actually play out instead of the game crashing and burning like a plane falling out of the sky would be nice.
if app caps fill up, too bad. keep the game small and manageable, or of course this is going to happen, hello?? games don't have to last forever, but having a finite plot actually play out instead of the game crashing and burning like a plane falling out of the sky would be nice.
it doesn't keep happening to every game, tho. only the ones deemed suitably shiny and worthy of huge flood. THOSE fall apart for all the reasons i described, because THOSE games are basically a revolving door for the shitheads i pointed out. it's not the mods and if you think it is you're missing the point.
okei indeed
enjoy your dying (soon to be dead) game, can't wait to see you in duplicity
enjoy your dying (soon to be dead) game, can't wait to see you in duplicity
you know, you could always go start your own game and prove how easy this is yourself. i mean, if it really is so easy to avoid, show us all by demonstration.
otherwise, you're just sitting here talking out of your ass and blaming the mods for every problem you have with the game.
otherwise, you're just sitting here talking out of your ass and blaming the mods for every problem you have with the game.
And how many people have tried to start games that then can't because no one will help them? One person can't mod a whole fucking game, and no one wants to help, so we're all stuck with the same polluted gene pool of shitty mods.
Help people run better games, or you're part of the fucking problem, too.
Help people run better games, or you're part of the fucking problem, too.
oh, i see. when someone tells you "go start your own game if you think it's so easy", you admit how difficult it actually is and point fingers at other rpers.
but when it comes to the el nysa mods, it's all "they should easily be able to fix everything wrong"
gotcha.
but when it comes to the el nysa mods, it's all "they should easily be able to fix everything wrong"
gotcha.
exactly. it's not hard - just make an app cap and then stick to it. if you want to limit the game to 100 characters then say that and actually mean it and don't go "well actually we'll let 200 characters in instead."
you can't tell one person to go start a wholeass game by themselves you fucking tube sock.
hey, i got an idea. co-mod with the other anon and you two can go try this out in your own game. be the change you wish to see, and all that.
The Nysa mods are a team you idiot. Yes, running a game is hard, but if a group of not fucking idiots sets up a system and sticks to it, a game isn't that hard to run. I've done it. The problem is inexperience and an inability to delegate, coupled with lazy flakes and people who don't want to take responsibility.
then maybe they should stop bitching over how hard they have it? who wants to mod for tittybabes like this, it's like you can't even understand why people are reticent to begin with
and if you didn't see el nysa's plight coming a mile away you are legitimately low iq and i don't feel any sympathy for you at all. sorry you lost your seat at the popular table but maybe next time you could try playing in a game with actual substance and not just Generic Premise X designed to rake in as many tdm comments and plurk spam as possible. no idea what you expected from a game that was LITERALLY DESIGNED for the shiny crowd. spoilers: it wears off.
and if you didn't see el nysa's plight coming a mile away you are legitimately low iq and i don't feel any sympathy for you at all. sorry you lost your seat at the popular table but maybe next time you could try playing in a game with actual substance and not just Generic Premise X designed to rake in as many tdm comments and plurk spam as possible. no idea what you expected from a game that was LITERALLY DESIGNED for the shiny crowd. spoilers: it wears off.
i'm game if they are. i'm happy to post a sock and make it happen. i'm full of ideas, i just need a couple of people who aren't idiots to help. pity there are so many idiots and cowards in this hobby who would rather bitch about the problem instead making even the most minuscule effort to do anything about it.
show me one fucking game in existence right now that has substance, plot, and a competent mod team.
in the meantime, let me tell you about this beachfront property i have for sale in Nebraska.
in the meantime, let me tell you about this beachfront property i have for sale in Nebraska.
as a former mod, this was preventable. el nysa's setting and plot would have worked best with a smaller, capped group.
mod posts even directly address this several times. like from january: "However, our original vision for El Nysa's plot elements has become harder to implement with the scale of the game vs the size of our current mod team."
mod posts even directly address this several times. like from january: "However, our original vision for El Nysa's plot elements has become harder to implement with the scale of the game vs the size of our current mod team."
i can understand you're getting frustrated because i'm poking holes in your flawed argument but the fact remains that you're just making excuses for yourself and moving goalposts.
making a game and running it is a lot harder than people think it is. and if you really have modded, you should know better than most that sitting here bitching is the far easier course of action than actually doing something and putting your money where your mouth is.
if you really want a plotty game to play in, go make it yourself. the el nysa mods are not obligated to give you any of their work or anymore of their time than they already have. do i think they could've done better? yes. do i think they were bad mods? i think they got overwhelmed and didn't know how to deal and it ended up cramping what vision for the game they had.
but at least they tried. which is more than can be said of someone like you that will make endless reasons for why they can't possibly start a game of their own but won't stop blaming the ones that did.
making a game and running it is a lot harder than people think it is. and if you really have modded, you should know better than most that sitting here bitching is the far easier course of action than actually doing something and putting your money where your mouth is.
if you really want a plotty game to play in, go make it yourself. the el nysa mods are not obligated to give you any of their work or anymore of their time than they already have. do i think they could've done better? yes. do i think they were bad mods? i think they got overwhelmed and didn't know how to deal and it ended up cramping what vision for the game they had.
but at least they tried. which is more than can be said of someone like you that will make endless reasons for why they can't possibly start a game of their own but won't stop blaming the ones that did.
go make your capped game, anons. i'll app to it. but pissing all over other mods for not doing things the way you want isn't the way to go.
they exist. i'm not going to point them out for you or bored anons to single out, but they exist. i'm in one. it's possible, i promise.
look, when you app into a game that is marketed towards flakes, you get flakes. and when you get flakes, the best mod team in the world is not going to sustain a game when they're the overwhelming majority. i know you and "LOL MODDING ISN'T THAT HARD" anon are convinced that you can just snap your fingers and boom you have a game, but it doesn't work that way. you're just coming across as whiny and entitled that your big shiny box withered and died when all the red flags were there from the very start. in big bold letters even.
move. on. and by that i mean stop playing at shallow flakemarts just because your friends are. stop following the herd, do your own thing, be happy. simple stuff.
look, when you app into a game that is marketed towards flakes, you get flakes. and when you get flakes, the best mod team in the world is not going to sustain a game when they're the overwhelming majority. i know you and "LOL MODDING ISN'T THAT HARD" anon are convinced that you can just snap your fingers and boom you have a game, but it doesn't work that way. you're just coming across as whiny and entitled that your big shiny box withered and died when all the red flags were there from the very start. in big bold letters even.
move. on. and by that i mean stop playing at shallow flakemarts just because your friends are. stop following the herd, do your own thing, be happy. simple stuff.
yes i can. i'm telling you that right now. i believe in you.
and if you cap the playerbase early, as was suggested, you can manage that by yourself, right?
and if you cap the playerbase early, as was suggested, you can manage that by yourself, right?
Page 81 of 168
- «
- 1
- 2
- 3
- 4
- 5
- 6
- 7
- 8
- 9
- 10
- 11
- 12
- 13
- 14
- 15
- 16
- 17
- 18
- 19
- 20
- 21
- 22
- 23
- 24
- 25
- 26
- 27
- 28
- 29
- 30
- 31
- 32
- 33
- 34
- 35
- 36
- 37
- 38
- 39
- 40
- 41
- 42
- 43
- 44
- 45
- 46
- 47
- 48
- 49
- 50
- 51
- 52
- 53
- 54
- 55
- 56
- 57
- 58
- 59
- 60
- 61
- 62
- 63
- 64
- 65
- 66
- 67
- 68
- 69
- 70
- 71
- 72
- 73
- 74
- 75
- 76
- 77
- 78
- 79
- 80
- 81
- 82
- 83
- 84
- 85
- 86
- 87
- 88
- 89
- 90
- 91
- 92
- 93
- 94
- 95
- 96
- 97
- 98
- 99
- 100
- 101
- 102
- 103
- 104
- 105
- 106
- 107
- 108
- 109
- 110
- 111
- 112
- 113
- 114
- 115
- 116
- 117
- 118
- 119
- 120
- 121
- 122
- 123
- 124
- 125
- 126
- 127
- 128
- 129
- 130
- 131
- 132
- 133
- 134
- 135
- 136
- 137
- 138
- 139
- 140
- 141
- 142
- 143
- 144
- 145
- 146
- 147
- 148
- 149
- 150
- 151
- 152
- 153
- 154
- 155
- 156
- 157
- 158
- 159
- 160
- 161
- 162
- 163
- 164
- 165
- 166
- 167
- 168
- »
Page 81 of 168