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251: back in my day wank meant something

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there's also a good chunk of fans/viewers who decide they prefer to like the show more than their own values. i know how that sounds, but i know a few trans friends who are aware of vivziepop being transphobic, waffled about it for a hot second, then decided to keep hyperfixating on this show regardless

i cant say if it's any good or not, i personally have made the choice to not bother with it especially after learning about the creator's transphobia, but it does seem weird to me that they'll poopoo on jkr but decide it's okay to enjoy this instead. i suppose maybe because as successful as hazbin/helluva has been, it's nowhere near the level of harry potter therefore not as influential?

As a trans person, I have noticed more trans people being willing to overlook transphobia directed towards transmascs than transphobia directed towards transwomen or transpeople in general. It's the same as how in the rare instance we get a trans character, most of the time it's a transwoman versus virtually no transmasc characters. In the rare instance we get one of those, it's probably someone pretty in an androgynous way with a buzzcut.

There are layers of misogyny and transphobia to peel back, and all of it sucks.

^THIS! ALL OF THIS

i’ve seen trans women willing to side with open transphobes bc they attack trans guys rather than them. ie, winterfox aka benjanun what-her-name-is has some trans women followers that worship her and pat her shit-filled ass while saying BEE IS NOT TRANSPHOBIC SHE IS NICE TO ME!

well of course

men are the enemy, and becoming a man is worse than being the enemy, it's treason

holy shit I was literally about to bring her up

I've seen her called an honorary trans woman, and that not liking her is a litmus test for transmisogyny. lol.

I know publishing is cutthroat, I guess she's self-published? because small time author have certainly been cancelled for less than constantly attacking trans men (to say nothing of her disgusting past).

her family is rich so she probably has connections

who

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjanun_Sriduangkaew this bitch

god damn that name is a bad hand of scrabble

probably has something to do with the fact that, to our knowledge, viv hasn't spent thousands (millions?) of dollars lobbying to take rights away from trans people. she just has shit-tier offensive "opinions," but yeah, not to the level of calling trans women rapists and donating to organizations that want to see them all dead

i hate hazbin hotel and all the other ugly ass shows this person makes, but the difference between them and a hugely influential figure actively supporting hate groups seems clear enough to me. vivziepop just seems like an indie edgelord who never aged out of the mid-2000s compared to rowling, a millionaire bigot whose life revolves around transphobia

pretty huge difference, yeah

i'd also add that the only evidence of those opinions i've actually seen is an unsourced screencap

I mean, fair! there's a definite difference in scale, but I'd just choose to not engage with both canons.

the difference is literally millions of dollars. come at me when vivziepop has an affect on US politics.

wait is she american?

she feels american

Salvadoran-American according to IMDb

so... she's american...

and the entire american shadow government. you got them now, anon.

where is it that she was transphobic?

i know google is bad these days but this is an easy one to source yourself, champ

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