251: back in my day wank meant something

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Re: +3

[(Anonymous)]

they aren’t going to come out with deets because there aren’t any. if there were you would’ve heard about them by now. nobody can list anything specific beyond vague mentions. a lot of guys talk about grudgewank when it’s convenient for you but this is clearly two-three people at most playing ping pong and not saying anything substantial. it’s boring at this point and we’ve moved on.

[(Anonymous)]

ia it’s boring and we’ve moved on, but just bc no one’s doxxing themselves doesn’t mean it’s untrue.

unlike wankers who make their bullshit everyone’s problem on huge scale, substantial info about pests like this is scarce because no one is going to identify themselves or their friends on wg. it is not going to happen. there is no benefit. even blocking out their side of the convo doesn’t help because the wankers in question will know who it is. it isn’t the same as someone kicking up a shitfest publicly.

if you don’t want to believe these players are assholes then that’s your call.

da

[(Anonymous)]

lmao gee whiz i'm so sorry i'm not taking anything as gospel on the gossip website notorious for making shit up

[(Anonymous)]

if you bring up actual proof a mod has harassed people out of a game then it would require action from the rest of the mods unless they wanted to nuke their entire game.

but you have none.

looking at expation's game pages and posts i see some crit towards the old mod team but jade was far from the only player who gave them crit on the games pacing according to what i can see as someone outside the game.

it seems like the original mods put out the game too early with very little to it and then real life got out of hand. they held mod applications and brought on jade and other people. the mods stepped down themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

ok jade

[(Anonymous)]

not jade i just got bored of this nothingburger that leads nowhere so i went looking

there’s nothing concrete or juicy

+1

[(Anonymous)]

pretty much this

[(Anonymous)]

lmao the day jade and alisa dox themselves will be the funniest fucking day ever and lbr they would

[(Anonymous)]

no one sharing proof means it is very likely to be untrue. if people had information to prove any of this they would. they can't because it does not exist.

[(Anonymous)]

as people have said, the deets involve sharing private discord dms whatever those might be, so it's unlikely to happen. whatever the case, those two seem to be major red flags in dwrp, proof or not.

[(Anonymous)]

Jfc. Look I get it's bad, like bad bad, for the people that know

Asking for deets is more so people can point here to reference when they warn somebody, if it's your word vs mine, you suck.

If these people are so incredibly shitty like the handful here keeps saying, there is zero chance they've covered their tracks so perfectly outside "private discord dms" and the fact that no one can conjure up even a cunt hair of actual info says all we need to hear on it, stfu

sa

[(Anonymous)]

Actually fuck it, I'll cut out the middle anon here too

Even if one of you magically suddenly has evidence I'll tell you right now you're full of shit and probably finally heard back from that friend that knows a guy who knows a guy who for a small fee makes good deepfake screenshots just because it's taken half of the damn comm to tell you to stop wasting time

[(Anonymous)]

"they're red flags because of secret info we can't share with you because reasons. but they're bad! trust us! there is no proof but proof doesn't matter!"

so it's grudgewank.

[(Anonymous)]

source: 'trust me, bro'

[(Anonymous)]

people share "private discord dms" as deets on anoncomms all the time, though. if the behavior in those DMs is actually bad to the extent that it warrants warning other people, nobody really cares about the breach of privacy. if you're unwilling to share the DMs that indicates that you think people will probably not consider the behavior bad enough to excuse the privacy breach. but if it's not bad enough to excuse the privacy breach, why should we care? "adoricrack got into some discord arguments with some people" isn't exactly compelling stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

this is about jade and alisa

[(Anonymous)]

another anon already corrected you, but i'm p sure the issue here is not fears of a breach of privacy but rather 1. people fearing repercussions from jade/alisa for dropping caps that would identify them as the whistleblower and 2. lbr there's a large chance that the other half of the conversation was also complicit to some degree

what jade is being accused of is very similar to the accusations that plagued jamie before tai finally decided to risk burning their own reputation for the sake of outing her - and while tai did accept complicity in jamie's actions and the consequences that came with that, that's not a decision many will want to make

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

my bad, and i've definitely been exposed as a filthy flatviewer here

as to your points, though, i just don't find this argument all that sympathetic. as i see it, the people with relevant deets have two choices: they can avoid conflict that might reflect badly on them, or they can excise jade/alisa from their community via callout. it seems like they want to do both. but 'both' isn't one of the choices. if they've decided that their preference is to avoid conflict by protecting their identities, that's fine (in fact, that's probably the smart choice), but a consequence of that decision is that nobody else is going to care and they will probably have to tolerate jade/alisa continuing to exist in the same spaces. conversely, if they want jade/alisa run out of DWRP, a consequence of that is that their identities will probably be exposed and they'll be subject to the judgement of wankgate.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

i definitely don't disagree with you. in explaining why i think they're so reluctant to produce actual deets, i'm definitely not trying to say that i think the path they've picked is the right thing to do or that we should just take everything that's been posted on wg about those two at face value. in fact imo if everything that's been said is true, expiation has much bigger problems than just those two

none of the things jade is being accused of can be done without the help of enablers, and i'm not sympathetic whatsoever to people who've just been letting jade shittalk other players to them while doing absolutely nothing to stop it from happening

+0.5

[(Anonymous)]

The whole thing about Jade forcing her cast mates to drop, bullying, and gatekeeping what happens in the game or the cast she's in is something I don't know if I believe.

But her not being able to stand the Exp Jinx player, complaining about how she is being written in the game, and how she feels she writes the character better than the player to her friends is something I do believe, and that is because she gets very obsessive with her characters (her current obsession right now is Manjiro from Tokyo Revengers). So seeing someone else having a different interpretation of a character she is playing or used to play and getting mad about it, I can imagine easily.

Mad enough to tell people and her friends to not tag the Jinx player? That, I don't know. But bitching to people about how a character she used to be obsessed with is being portrayed differently? Yes.

da

[(Anonymous)]

no horse in this race but i have seen enough comments here to be suspicious. no one gets this much complaints if they're innocent. case in point gsai, jamie, tifa and other wankers who flew under the radar for a long time.

plus all the whiteknighting is over the top.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

eh another no-horse here but it sounds like the usual wg grumbling for verifiable deets to me

whoever said you're just gonna have to let people decide for themselves was right. if they're that bad then eventually they'll hit critical mass of burned bridges and earn themselves a callout, a la gsai.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but some of it is clearly more than the usual grumbling about no deets

the anons who tried to paint a picture of the mod team jade shittalked as unpleasant people who were always difficult and unwilling to work with the playerbase stand out as deeply off to me

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

bullshit.

one dedicated grudgewanker making enough of a stink can generate a huge subthread if they stick to it long enough

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

you know, this whole thing didn't blow up again until some anon mentioned adoricrack. after alisa dropped when a different anon claimed they went to the mods with deets, everything went dead, and we moved on. so blame whoever that anon was.