wankgate | 251: back in my day wank meant something

because it's not a conversation, it's a lecture. and it's boring.

the truth is there are many more interesting male characters but that's down to the misogyny of the creators and the media industries. multiple big ips have a like 10:1 ratio of male to female characters. the male characters are often better written or have more interesting back stories than the female characters (who usually end up as mother/whore figures or going from caretaker > rape victim > dead).

but it's probably easier for everyone to blame the mostly afab dwrp players who have no power in this scenario for being misogynists than admit that you're a fan of something problematic right?

the ensemble cast with one female character whose main trait/role in the group is "the girl" is a standing joke about modern media for a reason

there ARE fewer interesting female characters. there are, overall, fewer female characters period.

it's true, but i think their point is that if you can't find a single f character to play in the zillions that exist in media, that's on you

but i admit my horses are coming in last in this race, i like plenty of f characters but i play 99% dicks lol

from someone else who plays mostly dudes: i think part of the frustration is when people brand female characters as uninteresting/annoying/bitchy/unlikeable for the exact same character traits that they drool over for male characters, which IS undeniably a fandom problem

if character A is manipulative, annoying, and rude, it's telling when you bash character B for those same things just because she has a vagina, lol, and it's really transparent when you say "there are no good female characters, take for example Bitchy McMurder Vanessa. now if you'll excuse me i have tags for Bitchy McMurder Jacob to do"

i've never seen this in dwrp. in this hobby it seems like it's more likely people will say things like "this female character is amazing, i love women!" and then somehow never play her. while also bitching about how female characters never get tags and how sexist dwrp is lol.

so less blatant misogyny and more personal preference is what you're saying

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Or my fave /s, when I've played the M side of M/F ships and the F player goes on about how much better F/F ships are and how incredibly gay their lady character is, when they're the ones that approached me for shipping. I don't get it, why ship with my dude characters if they prefer F/F? Which they never actually play. And they don't seem to understand why I lose interest in our ships after months of hearing that stuff and them "playfully" trashing my male characters and complaining about wanting more women characters to tag them (that they'll just flake on).

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for me sometimes it's that i find certain traits more interesting in characters of one gender than the other. like, i'm so over stoic, aloof male characters because there are five million of them and i just find them boring now. but stoic, aloof female characters? give me more of that. same with soft, nurturing female characters. boring, they're a dime a dozen, but i eat up soft, nurturing male characters because you see those so much more rarely.

multiple big ips have a like 10:1 ratio of male to female characters. the male characters are often better written

this is only true for shit canons though

people who like shit canons obviously aren't going to stop liking them just for that, but it's a little annoying to see this tired argument brought out when in 2024 if you're only finding fiction with one female character named Tits McGirlfriend, perhaps it's time to look outside shounen anime

basically this.

there are so many rpers (and fandom people generally) who will still love and fixate on canons where the women characters are treated as at best accessories to the story. personally, i just feel like life's too short for that, and while i definitely don't judge people for ever liking and playing from those canons (bakugou is my beautiful idiot son too, after all), i do start judging a bit if they are the ONLY canons a person ever plays from.

every time this is brought up, a flock of defensive anons descends to claim that the canons with better ratios for female characters are all gross neckbeard shit and that if you like them then you are simply a neckbeard

okay so lets hear your recommendations for immaculate feminist canons that are fun to rp from

nobody is going to give you legitimate recs on wg because everyone knows how this song and dance goes

we've had this exact conversation 500 times and it's fucking boring

you guys rp from genshin and honkai star rail

immaculate canons are clearly unnecessary

wrong

here, i'll leave some recent easy examples in case you're totally right: if anyone can explain to me how baldur's gate 3, the most recent predator movie, or the last of us are gross neckbeard shit, go ahead

i mean

the anon right below this immediately proved it wasn't wrong

but your examples are appreciated regardless

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and most of the ips with female majority casts are well known and reviled as neckbeard bait.

but no matter what you're just gonna climb up your high horse and fart, so who gives a fuck

TIL that big little lies, orange is the new black, fleabag, the handmaid's tale, and orphan black are reviled neckbeard bait

how did you jump from "find canons with more/better female characters" to "THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE EXACT OPPOSITE RATIO OR THEY'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH"

i'm sorry someone insulted your favorite pantyshots of teenagers anime though

it's funny that you're talking about anime because i read these kinds of comments and immediately think of the big live action canons like the mcu/star wars/lotr where there's only one girl in the whole galaxy but it's ok because she's a strong female character(tm)

ayrt: it was a coin toss whether i put MCU or shounen manga, but in case it needs to be said, yes the MCU also sucks

star wars spinoff stuff has some interesting female characters though

it’s really a shame how star wars has become a cultural battleground and if a show is not a multi billion successful hit then the adult infant crew starts screaming about it being a failure because woke. some of the stuff they’ve done makes me want to see where they’re going.

but tbh it’s also these streaming sites canceling shows without letting them cook because of metrics or whatever.

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yeah my immediate thought is always spn

lmao both the mcu and star wars have a shitload of female characters and some of them don't even suck

lotr it's pretty true but it was also written by a conservative wwi vet so no shit

early mcu you're valid and correct, but the movies and shows since endgame have been much better in female representation with a wider variety of personalities beyond 'action chick.' to the point that fanboys vehemently accuse it of being the m-she-u now. black widow, wandavision, wakanda forever, the marvels, hawkeye, she-hulk, ms marvel, the upcoming agatha show and thunderbolts, all feature female-centric stories and rosters.
unfortunately people mostly continue rping the same boring hunky dudes.