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(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
what a hilariously transparent bid for attention this whole shebang is and i'm amazed people are defending it

like, this is straight up emotionally manipulative tumblr horseshit and we regularly mock that

i guess she'll claim transphobia if people ignore her ic now huh

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
also super good move dumping that shit in the ooc comm because while it's incredibly inappropriate there's NOTHING the mods can do to reprimand her without people accusing them of being transphobic, so she just gets to bask in the attention and get off scott free

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
as a transwoman, the whole "oh he's not really trans" thing hit pretty close to home. it's not about kay (she's an obnoxious, creepy little shit regardless of her gender), it's people lashing out against attitudes that have hurt them or their friends

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
You're missing the point.

Had it been someone else, I think most of us (with the exception of the nastier wankers around here, who wouldn't accept anything just to be assholes) would have accepted it.

However, with it being Kevin, and with the way Kevin went about "coming out" that makes it COMPLETELY FUCKING OBVIOUS that it's only for attention and to get out of the trouble they caused by invoking people's cis guilt, it's beyond ridiculous to demand that people accept this at face value just so we don't SEEM "transphobic".

Look past the emotional blinders and realize who we're talking about. Kevin is manipulating all of you into coming to his defense. Be pissed off at him, not us.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
And if you're wrong, and she really is trans? This makes you a transphobic asshole little better than Cathy Brennan and the OH NOES THEY'RE COMING INTO OUR BATHROOMS TO PERV ON WOMEN crowd.

What the fuck is so wrong with saying the exact same stuff, but ctrl+f replace "he" with "she"? She can still be known as a creeper.

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
If I'm wrong and she really is trans, then she brought about this reaction by her own behavior. Maybe it will teach her not to be such a shit to people.

Ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? Kevin's been a shitstain long enough that it's completely stupid to expect anyone to believe him. And it's HIS OWN FAULT.

Get mad at Kevin, not people who refuse to take him at face value.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
you're either trollin or so emotionally compromised you can't see the forest for the trees

kevin has been around playing his skeevy little headgames for years. anyone with half a brain that knows him knows this is just another of his many, many bids for attention

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
If Kevin really is trans, it's Kevin's own fault for people not believing it.

It's not transphobia to disbelieve a known liar.

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
as the other trans person in this whole clusterfuck (and i regret getting as involved as i did because i think i got a little too mad) i have to say, in the most neutral, nonaggressive way it is possible to be on the internet, that i'm surprised you went to defending kay in this instance when i saw the post as an emotionally manipulative attempt to appropriate something i struggle with on the daily in order to deflect criticism. honestly i feel like it's more important to not tolerate this behavior than it is to give them a free pass.

like, my skepticism toward the post is not just because she's creepy, but she's creepy AND the whole post was emotionally manipulative as fuck, with her coming out tossed on the end as an afterthought, which makes me inclined to doubt her sincerity as a whole. it's not that i think creepers can't be trans, but that i think a little scrutiny of something as suspicious as this is unfortunately necessary to avoid allowing insincere, appropriative predators into our community.

it is very likely she actually is trans. if she is, that will become clear pretty shortly. in the meantime, i'm sure kay can handle a little disbelief from random, faceless assholes on the internet, if i can handle that kind of reaction from my own parents.

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly!

It's interesting to watch SJWs who normally scream bloody murder about every little thing being appropriation, and yet they have no problem with some asshole wanting to appropriate being trans to manipulate people into not wanking him.

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
because you have absolutely zero proof she's faking her identity.

the boy who cried wolf analogy upstairs fails completely because kay has never been dishonest about his gender before. in fact, calling them "manipulative" seems like a huge leap in logic because she just comes off as plain stupid creepy (ala mike) instead of malicious creepy (ala stormy). Never attribute to malice what can be more easily explained as stupidity, anon.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
because you have absolutely zero proof she's faking her identity.

Yeah, there's no reason to believe a liar would lie! None at all!

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Kay's always been really honest about their creepiness anon. I'm having trouble imagining them as this cunning manipulator you're painting them out to be when the Kay I've had the unfortunate displeasure of knowing is a fucking moron.

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
except no, he hasn't. he has been the exact opposite of honest.

oh! i didn't know that was offensive! i'm so sorry! i won't do it anymore.

keeps doing it.

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
seriously? someone never lied about one particular thing but has been caught in a metric crap ton of other lies through the years, and somehow that makes them credible about this ONE thing? were you born yesterday or just last night?

i don't think you ought to be talking about stupidity at all, anon. i really don't.

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
sure is sameanon in here.

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
And there we have it. The "sameanon" accusation.

We have hit critical mass, folks. Discussion's over. There will be no sense to be made out of it from here on.

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! PLEASE DON'T LOOK AT THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN! NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

p.s. your shitty friend is still a liar

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
She's not my friend? I want nothing to do with her, ever.

But as long as you call her a woman while you call her a liar, go nuts.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
maybe I'm behind on things, but when did they get a reputation as a lying mastermind? I always thought the story with her was that she was lesbian obsessed, oversharing, boring, and really fucking stupid.

none of those really spell out "manipulator" to me, anon. deets on all the lies they've told?

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
being called out repeatedly on behavior and claiming, oh, i didn't know that was offensive/harmful/upsetting. i'll do better. i promise!

doesn't do better. gets worse. picks new targets when the old ones have had enough of his shit.

wash, rinse, repeat.

that is the very definition of lying and manipulating, anon. playing dumb is one of the first lines of defense for neckbeard creepers. you know why? because it often works. case in point.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not a defense if people still call them creepers though.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
except no. it's not just that. even people who strictly talk about her behavior are getting jumped over pronoun use, including correct pronoun use. i don't give a flying fuck what she identifies as or wants to call herself. she pulled another ridiculous stunt, and she has defenders for it based solely on deciding to announce she's trans at the same time she said the rest of that bullshit.

(frozen comment) Re: KEVIN / KAY

(Anonymous) 2014-06-27 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
she can claim whatever she wants. i'm still not playing with this creepy piece of shit and tbh i side eye everyone who does.

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