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251: back in my day wank meant something

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Ok so genuine question and just want to understand better.

Is it creep behavior if you get commission art of an RP ship, whether you interact with the other rp partner often or not? I'm now hearing about it being boundary-disrespecting and that it is ship pushy activity that can make players uncomfortable.

Genuine answer, talk to the other player. Different people will feel differently about it.

i've had 2 other people commission art of our ships. both times we were friends ooc. one was an established long-running game ship (over a year together) and the other time was a long-running psl (also over a year). in those circumstances, i didn't find it creepy at all. i was flattered.

+1 it was a psl we'd had going for a while and I was delighted

I think commissioning fanart of rp stuff is perfectly fine. The line where it can shade into creep behavior is if you then use that fanart (and/or the fact that you paid $$ for it) to browbeat or guilt your partner into more tags. But that would be part of a larger pattern of acting inappropriate and pushy with an rp partner, and commissioning fanart is just one part of it.

my ship partner surprised me with art of our ship for christmas last year and it was one of the best presents i've ever received.

Anon from above:

In the case of this situation because of the canon, it's because the WoL was poly and the player would pursue multiple romantic partners in a game. It didn't feel like a gift for them and more like a trophy for the WoL player to show off to their friends, if that makes sense.

This sounds so, so much like Shiny. Especially since she's known to get a ton of expensive commissions.

When she shared commissions of Megumi paired with various NPCs, she's never stated they were gifts to any particular player, so they seemed to be bought just for herself and this image for her friend circle that Megumi is this perfect girlfriend for any attractive male character.

Her habits border on an unhealthy obsession if you ask me. Some of her public opinions on characters have done a 180 just to get a commission from a high profile artist who likes and draws that character, like G'raha Tia and Emet Selch. Now I'm betting she's looking for artists to draw her with Erenville.

agreed tbh. i know plenty of people who have gotten commissions of their wols with their favorite npcs but it's always the same one or two npcs so it feels like any other canon/fanon ship that someone just happens to like.

in this case it feels like what you said, like she's trying to set up this image that megumi is the perfect woman that all attractive men should want and it's honestly kind of creepy given how much she obviously projects onto the character.

The projection is funny when you realize one of the reasons she commissions so much is that she's actually quite picky and never satisfied with her commissions no matter how much she spends. When they miss out on details she never actually specified to them or noticed herself that they were wrong until the art is complete, she gets really passive aggressive toward the artist while fishing for compliments to make her feel better.

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(Anonymous) - 2024-07-30 13:31 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2024-08-01 04:25 (UTC) - Expand

tbh i had a stranger share an art they'd commissioned of our characters based off a shippy thread on a meme and i was just immensely flattered they enjoyed that one thread we'd had that much. helped that they were super chill to interact with in pm otherwise. never got a pushy impression from them, and that good vibe's probably why the art share came off way more as a cool present than a carrot being dangled for more shipping or w/e

agree with above anons that the vibe really is key. you *could* pull it off as a stranger, but if you're concerned about the risk of looking weird, holding off until you know each other better as rp partners is a fair strategy too

it's fine

just for the fuck of it, to the people in this thread: does it change your opinion at all if it's not a commission, but your rp partner drew it themselves? i don't see why it would but might as well ask, never know on wg

I would be less uncomfortable with something they drew themselves than with a commission, if only because I can relate to wanting to draw rp things and there's no money involved.

I think it's sweet if they drew it themselves. Them asking another person and paying for it is what unnerves me.

imho what makes it creep or not is if the person doing the commission is whether they talked to the other player in the ship about it before hand.

eh, i feel like it really depends. i had my character's in-game ship partner commission art of our ship and i was delighted. they didn't tell me about it beforehand because they wanted it to be a surprise.

i'd be delighted to get surprise gift art sprung on me provided it's a ship we're both into and not just a one-sided 'the other character talked to mine one time and they made up an entire thing in their head' deal

i think that is a good rule of thumb for people you don’t know that well but there are exceptions. for instance while i might talk to someone on plurk often but never one on one, i would ask and discuss it with them. for my friend that i’ve know for a long time and who i will dm “hey i found this mpreg yaoi doujin where a hot elf man gets raped by orcs and thought it was your thing” and she replies “hell yeah thanks for the link” is someone who i will spring surprise commissions on.

it’s still not a bad rule to go by but it’s not something that’s set in stone.

wait i'm sorry did you actually find a mpreg yaoi doujin where a hot elf man gets raped by orcs?

asking for a friend

asking the important questions

yea but definitely go over the tags before going in bc my friend and i are nasty freaks and there is a lot of that going on in there

https://hitomi.la/doujinshi/chikuhyou-no-hanayome-%7C-the-orc-bride-english-200759-1085987.html

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(Anonymous) - 2024-08-02 03:19 (UTC) - Expand

had a friend once who was so into a ship that was going on they drew art of it themselves.

it is my favorite drawing of all time and is currently my phone lock screen some ten years later.

communication is important but it in and of itself ain't an inherently creepy thing.

generally; love fanart, but context always matters

playing a ship for one thread and the chemistry is really amazing and good? art would be an amazing surprise, very flattering
playing a ship for multi threads? hell i'm probably the one drawing ship art

idk if the art is good or bad, little stupid black and white scribbles or beautiful pieces of hours long rendered art. i get fun writing AND fun pictures? it's like a two cakes scenario to me

i think the only time i would find it off-putting is if we're doing a cute gen thread and suddenly you, without warning, spring some smutty art on me with no warning or prior discussion of threads eventually going that way. honestly i'd still be really flattered but i'd also ask why not just talk with me about that first? otherwise that might be the only time i feel like it's 'ship pushing', and this has literally never happened to me, lmao.

this feels like one of those threads people love to imagine worst what-ifs to be potentially offended about

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