wankgate | 134: reading comprehension optional

ia the taken list is very off-putting right now. was considering apping someone in, but their canon is currently on the page as some stupid joke name instead, and i personally find that as a turn-off for apping.

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da, but i don't really think they have to. they've addressed wg concerns before almost as soon as they've come up, in a tone that sort of implied they'd read them on wg. i'm confident they're aware, but they either don't care or they're taking their time to fix it.

They... really need to. I'm not all that bothered by it but it does look kind of bad and if it's putting people off from apping it should be attended to.

looks like they took their time because they completely redid the code. it looks completely different now.

better. my only complaint is that there's no username available to see and if you don't have hover on for userpics (which a lot of people seem to turn off because of the accidental clicking issue), you won't know who's who.

this is why i never really advocate for fancy layouts for taken lists. the more fancy the code, the more likely something's getting left out. it's a taken list. it's supposed to tell me who's playing what. if the basic function of that is limited, it becomes pointless.

just do damn lists. there are plenty of games without fancy code that just list the relevant information and it works for everyone involved. code like this takes up too much space, especially if the game grows at all.

most of the time i think usernames are important, but it's a smut game and those usually value privacy and anonymity options for the players (even encouraging alts and socks for the players). so i don't think it's a surprise that they wouldn't put as much emphasis on the usernames because they aren't as important.

if you are that hung up you can hover to see it or if you're in the game you can check out their preference list, but it's not a big need. everything you need to know (character name, canon, which wing they are) as potential player is there and if you are a player in the game you have access to more info. the privacy the current list provides to the players is a plus.

the last code had usernames. i don't think they really give a shit about it at all, but whoever found this code just thought it was prettier. this logic of yours would only make sense if the previous code hadn't had usernames up, or if the current code couldn't access them via their userpics. the ability is there, it's just harder to get for those that choose not to have the hover menu on over userpics.

taken list is supposed to be helpful and informative. being in the game under a sock doesn't mean that the account you're on is supposed to be secret. that's why you're using it. if people make a brand new account for a sex game, they shouldn't really care if it's associated with their sex game sock. i, as a player, would like to have a handy way to reference who's who, especially since we have double characters and people with the same faces.

I don't mind there being usernames on the taken list because it does make things easier, but according to the mod update there were requests for the usernames to be removed from the list so that's why it's like that.

i saw that, but it makes no sense. anyone can just go to the game comm and find usernames. there's no way to wipe usernames from the comms completely, so the idea that having a username tied to their name as horrible is bullshit. anyone with a brain knows that if you want to make a sock name because you don't want to be affiliated with smut, you make a new char account as well. so it shouldn't really matter if that char account is tied to that sock name in the first place. if someone's dumb enough to app in under a sock and use an old account, it's going to be found out by anyone in the damn game.

and since they're going to be hosting the images on another site, you won't even be able to hover to find the name, which is incredibly dumb. sorry, mods, but if i'm looking to app into your game and i'm wanting to avoid certain people, i would like to know by the taken list alone that 'oh, you have that bucky/harry potter/naruto/korra/whoever it is that i'm trying to avoid'. that's why usernames are up. if i don't want to join a game with so and so in it, finding out after i've apped and psyched myself up to play in the game that oh, they're actually my castmate? that's pretty stupid.

yeah by your logic if you know exactly who you want to avoid, you can also just look up their username...

true, but they're still making it needlessly complicated. game lists and pages like that are supposed to be informative and helpful. they've sort of been making things more complicated than they need to be. screening this and locking that and oh, let's just take out usernames. and why would someone ask to have their username taken out?

oh, that's right. because they're a wanker.

they've been screening and locking based on player feedback. ia that some people are being dumb tittybabies about privacy but if you care that much maybe you should say something to the mods instead of whining.

do you know where you are? look, i agree and i might leave a comment about it, but other than saying 'the only people whining are wankers trying to get out of being called out for it and you're potentially losing players because they can't see who's playing who easily', there's not much else to say. it's a preference thing and if the mods want to cater to wankers, that's their schtick. i know they read wg. their last post pretty much all but says they read wg. i don't hold it against them, but it means that i know they're actually reading this and already know about the issues brought up. half, if not more of the changes they've made since the game opened have been in response to shit brought up on wg.

so, they know this is here. they know the stance, and they can react on it or not. it's their game. if they want to make it more complicated and cater to people that are too dumb to make a fucking sock account, that's their deal.

Except that most of the recruiting processes personally don't go by browsing to see who is and is not in the game. They go by word of mouth to friends on plurk or whatnot. This complaint might hold legit water were it not for the players themselves requesting the change, and the fact that everyone IN the game has been civil and decent with one another, save one moment of wank where one player couldn't not ship push or even keep her story straight on how 'awfully she was wronged' by players & mods.

I'm also positive I read a No Stormy policy in the rules or faq so I'm pretty sure mods are keeping a close eye on misbehavior.

At the end of this, you're complaining about the possibility of maybe being forced to PM a player or two whom you don't want to deal with should you get in the game/are in the game and stating "hey, please don't tag me". Which is actually against the spirit of being an adult and clear about what you do/do not want to play with or play out.

Which I could kind of sympathize, but by and large that is your own personal responsibility. They have to protect their actual players, first.

some players don't want people to be able to find their USERNAMES and wanted the entire taken list revamped when their usernames are right there on the community's profile page

i don't care if one or two players requested that, it's a ridiculous request. just because it's a smut game doesn't mean it needs to be on absolute lockdown. posts are private, you could have made a new character journal, and you can join under an alias, that's good enough

putting a stop to the very small demographic of "people who would check for suspicious usernames on the taken list but wouldn't go through the member list because that's too much work" is not a valid issue nor a good use of mod time

Well it happened anyway so I don't see what you're complaining about. So what if you can't see the usernames why is that going to stop you from apping? If anything it should show you the mods are paying attention to player feedback so why are you so against that

i'm in game already, the problem is that the mods are catering to this extreme paranoid tittybaby type of player feedback when there are for example FAQ questions that haven't been answered in almost two weeks, unanswered npc tags, and event posts still go up late

every player's suggestions deserve to be heard, but that doesn't mean you have to implement them. in this case they could have offered the concerned players an opportunity to make another journal and join with that if their username is recognizable. even CoA shows usernames and no one's really had a problem with it - that really makes me think the feedback came from one tittybaby outlier. the mods need to prioritize their tasks better and learn how to say no to certain concerns that would take a lot of modwork and not have any real benefit. no game is ever going to make every single player happy, and if they try they're just going to keep overloading themselves.

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(Anonymous) - 2015-03-29 18:23 (UTC) - Expand

Apparently not too ridiculous if they went along and did it, anyway. It's a smut game with a zero-tolerance policy on wankery.

By your own argument, it takes you two clicks to chase down any particular journal name on the member listing in the profile page. And if you're that interested in apping, you're going to want to talk to the mods anyway for the same situation, just to make sure your own back is covered.

I'm really having a time seeing the logic in your complaint, here. You seem to want mods to prioritize anon over players, and also want to judge other accounts with a minimum of effort on your end involved? Is that about right?

hi james. nice same anoning.

On top of that the mods even said they'd rather players came to them so they can resolve situations that arise so THEY can tell players not to tag someone, ect if they're not comfortable doing it themselves so I don't get why this is rocket science. God forbid they put in the effort to do what they said they would in their own faq and rules

no i don't want the mods to prioritize anon over players, i want them to prioritize game events and npc tags and answers to faq questions over revamping the entire taken list and uploading 100+ userpics to imgur just because some paranoid tittybaby went "weh weh muh username!" as if they didn't have full control over their own damn username

look, i don't think they're bad mods, but if they can't say "no" to a player suggestion every now and then (or at least prioritize it behind more important things) people are going to think they can walk all over them and get whatever changes they want if they phrase it as a ~privacy concern~