251: back in my day wank meant something

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+1

[(Anonymous)]

and they've said that if the changes, once implemented, are very unpopular, they're open to switching things up again. i'm baffled by all of this complaining, esp about pel who afaik has been doing tons of heavy lifting with the npcs.

just give things a chance before deciding everything and everyone involved is doomed to failure.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

yeah love being forced to tag someone who is famously shitty in dwrp and also a shit writer just to be part of a plot

tenny and pel being allowed to essentially make their own ocs and use them as npcs in the game while players are required to tag with them was also a terrible idea

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

no one is forcing you to tag them or their npcs

if you can't stand the people who run this game, there is a simple solution to your problem

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

didn't the last event literally have a prompt where players who took part were required to thread with the npcs otherwise they would be written out of the plot completely? i don't know how you can look at that and say that players aren't being forced to tag the npcs.

i've also seen the npcs turn up in network posts more frequently and there's no way to opt out of being tagged by them.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

because they aren't being forced? the plot was opt-in, and if you didn't respond or want to thread anything out, you didn't have to. your character would just wake up with blood missing.

you don't have to like the npcs but it is weird to act like the mod team is forcing you to interact with them, because they're not.

also if you get tagged by them on the network, just don't tag them back.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

anon, take it from someone outside looking in, who doesn't care either way: you're getting really defense of the mod team and pel in a way that isn't making them look good right now. this thread would have just died off on its own, if you didn't step in.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

you're probably right but if i was in their position and someone brought this thread to my attention, it would make me feel 2% better to know that not every anon in this dumpster fire thinks the work i'm doing is garbage.

da

[(Anonymous)]

I enjoy the game, I just think the mods are making awful calls and not communicating well and need to do better

da

[(Anonymous)]

I get you, anon. It's the double edged sword of sticking up for people in wg. That said, I'm in the game too and can't tell if the person who's got such a mod hateboner on either can't read (see forced mod npc interactions) or just isn't in the game at all so they're bitching third hand about something they heard through hearsay lmao.

But I'm +1 you in that the new mods are doing good work, I'm happy in the game, and while I'm not loving the new plot coin changes I'm okay with implementing them and offering the mods feedback if I have any to give. Maybe I won't have any complaints after.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

You are single handedly making this game look worse than the dumb ass rules they've implemented, but please keep going. I've been waiting for this game to crash and burn and you're really lighting a match.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

lol

weird

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

there actually is a really easy way to opt out of tagging a game's mod npcs

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

can you like. elaborate on this. isn't NPCs being new characters (so: original characters) designed specifically for the game they're NPCs in… normal? and if they are plot-significant, it makes sense that they would have fleshed-out motivations and personalities.

or are you describing an issue where they are played just as actively as PCs, rather than being for special occasions and plot-significant moments? because normally i love getting cr with NPCs to the extent that "cr" is possible in that context—but if (based on other comments here about them replying to network posts) they are played as basically just elevated PCs, that would indeed be… well, weird at best.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

it's when the npc is obviously the mod's blorbo to the point of being an oc in all but name that it becomes cringe

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

anon, all of the npcs are original characters. it would be weird if they did not have distinct personalities and motivations that make them interesting to thread with. if the mods writing them were just dialling it in, they would be boring to interact with.

da

[(Anonymous)]

think by 'mod's blorbo' they mean that the mod seems unusually invested in the character and effectively treating them like an OC they can play without apping or meeting AC requirements.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

the function of npcs should be to communicate plot information, not fuck around on the network and build cr with existing pcs.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

+1

these npcs are designed to allow the mods to act out the mods specific noncon kinks. they are just ocs that the mods didn't have to app.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

my hottest take about this game i'm not in:

i think mods shouldn't have to app or make AC for their own games

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

people did give feedback and were brushed off and told to wait and see. sometimes that's valid, but these new requirements are ones that a very active player can fail through no fault of their own and that's not going to change a few months from now.

basing it on popularity is also flawed here because there's a specific type of player who will find these requirements very easy to consistently meet. if a decent chunk of the game falls into that category, will feedback from players who are struggling still be heard? it's not a definitive no, but it's a very frustrating limbo to be stuck in when not getting a plot coin has a huge impact on your ability to be involved in the game.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

+1

players are already abruptly ending threads to earn plot coins (and some of those players are consistent at never finishing their threads to begin with). the system punishes players who are genuinely here to thread to completion.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

+1 and regardless of what the requirements are it has still made AC overly complicated. the minstrel system was difficult enough to figure out before the changes

could be it's just how it's all laid out that makes it confusing, but i don't like needing to factor in so many caveats as i'm threading and assembling a plot coin submission

there are ways to accomplish what they seem to be going for without so much red tape

da

[(Anonymous)]

i've just given up on going for plot coins at all, which i'm sure was not the mods' intent

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

the worst thing imho is that they doubled the ac requirement overnight without warning. many players apped into the game because it was a low ac check in game that was relaxed about rules and requirements and focused on fun and character development. now it's becoming less and less like that. even if the mods roll back these changes the damage has been done.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

And they framed it in the most nonsensical way possible, too. This game never had an activity problem. A lot of players were playing.

If anything, you'd think they'd try to target the players who are handwaving things and not tagging yet still hold a lot of metaplot despite their inactivity.